(03-04-2021, 05:11 PM)cincydawg Wrote: I think we can probably agree there was no need for finding fake votes in CA and NY, right?  Why would anyone bother?  Add in MA and IL and a few other states not in play, and you have quite a few votes for Biden where there was zero reason for fraud, and some risk.

Joe got over 11 million votes in California alone.  Obama got, wait for it, 7.85 million.  So, if we take a state where wide scale fraud is unlikely and look at the increase in votes for Biden over Obama ....

Why would anyone assume voter fraud is unlikely in California?  They probably have 3-5 million illegals and I would bet many of them vote.  Their election system is probably more like that of Mexico.

(03-04-2021, 05:23 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 04:40 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 04:36 PM)zigbee Wrote: Ala makes fun of p1tch ant he is too slow to understand what was going on

So, I'm like pitch because i'm making people do and explain math?  Gimme a break.

When 3 people make the claim that Biden got at least 11m spurious votes, I'd like to hear some opinion on how that could have happened.  That's 9% of the total vote or close to it.   None of Trump's lawyers even claimed something on this level.  

yet I'm the troll.  Again, Gimme a break.

At LEAST 11m!  Of course, those who make such allegations have no true concept of just what 1 million ballots looks like, much less 11 millon.  The best part is the army of people that would be needed to fill out 11 million fraudulent ballots and all of whom must never speak a word of what they did, right? Not one of them!  

Every statistical accusation that Trump made, i. e. 50k dead voters, 16k felons voting, etc was all proven to be a lie but, yes, an army of people, across multiple states, got together to fill out 11 MILLION ballots.

It's honestly embarrassing that anyone believes any of this sh1t.

Honestly, you're just diluting yourself, pitch.

(03-04-2021, 05:27 PM)Beastdog Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 05:23 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 04:40 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 04:36 PM)zigbee Wrote: Ala makes fun of p1tch ant he is too slow to understand what was going on

So, I'm like pitch because i'm making people do and explain math?  Gimme a break.

When 3 people make the claim that Biden got at least 11m spurious votes, I'd like to hear some opinion on how that could have happened.  That's 9% of the total vote or close to it.   None of Trump's lawyers even claimed something on this level.  

yet I'm the troll.  Again, Gimme a break.

At LEAST 11m!  Of course, those who make such allegations have no true concept of just what 1 million ballots looks like, much less 11 millon.  The best part is the army of people that would be needed to fill out 11 million fraudulent ballots and all of whom must never speak a word of what they did, right? Not one of them!  

Every statistical accusation that Trump made, i. e. 50k dead voters, 16k felons voting, etc was all proven to be a lie but, yes, an army of people, across multiple states, got together to fill out 11 MILLION ballots.

It's honestly embarrassing that anyone believes any of this sh1t.

Honestly, you're just diluting yourself, pitch.

From reading the insanity from your posts and other's, yes.

(03-04-2021, 04:40 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 04:36 PM)zigbee Wrote: Ala makes fun of p1tch and he is too slow to understand what was going on

So, I'm like pitch because i'm making people do and explain math?  Gimme a break.

When 3 people make the claim that Biden got at least 11m spurious votes, I'd like to hear some opinion on how that could have happened.  That's 9% of the total vote or close to it.   None of Trump's lawyers even claimed something on this level.  

yet I'm the troll.  Again, Gimme a break.

Never said you were close to being like P1tchblack.  I said HE is too SLOW to get your point .  HE (p1tchblack) is too SLOW to understand what is going on when you posted 7.8 million in reply.  It went right over his head.

Now, back to the votes and fraud.   Biden didn't win by 11 million votes in PA, or MI or Wisconsin or Georgia.  He won by several thousand votes, and yes, that easily COULD be manipulated to win with the mail in stuff on be validated on dates, sig, and so forth.

(03-04-2021, 05:13 PM)Beastdog Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 04:31 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: I think that's a fair stand....that he didn't factually get 80m votes.  I gave a way that I think has validity for him getting that many, which includes demonizing the Postmaster General/issuing absentee ballots to many, many more people than would ever consider voting, etc.

But many claim there's no way he got 80m but don't give any path to saying even some estimate on how many are invalid...and how that many could be filed.  HT says up to 78% of Detroit/Philly/Atlanta/etc are spurious, which would be millions of votes.  Dave says Biden likely got less than Obama, which is 11m plus.  How in the world did they pump up the vote by 11 million fraudulent votes?  Nothing presented in the last 4 months indicates that.

43k votes in 3 states that make up 7.2% of the US population decided this election. This number projects to 583k votes nationwide if we assume equal level of fraud over the entire population. And of course, the shenanigans were heavily concentrated in a handful of battleground states that all just so happened to have all the suspicious activity. So maybe 100-200k fraudulent votes "nationally" could have swung this election, maybe even less. That's less than 0.1% of the total votes, which is clearly plausible. You keeping up with the math, Alabuckeye?

There was not a need for 11 million fraudulent votes for Sleepy Joe Biden to steal the Presidency, more like 1% of that number.

Beast, Iâ€m sorry you are unable to keep up. In this thread multiple people have stated that there is no way Biden got more votes than Obama and Hillary. Thatâ€s where the 11 million came from that I was addressing.

(03-04-2021, 05:38 PM)zigbee Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 04:40 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 04:36 PM)zigbee Wrote: Ala makes fun of p1tch and he is too slow to understand what was going on

So, I'm like pitch because i'm making people do and explain math?  Gimme a break.

When 3 people make the claim that Biden got at least 11m spurious votes, I'd like to hear some opinion on how that could have happened.  That's 9% of the total vote or close to it.   None of Trump's lawyers even claimed something on this level.  

yet I'm the troll.  Again, Gimme a break.

Never said you were close to being like P1tchblack.  I said HE is too SLOW to get your point .  HE (p1tchblack) is too SLOW to understand what is going on when you posted 7.8 million in reply.  It went right over his head.

Now, back to the votes and fraud.   Biden didn't win by 11 million votes in PA, or MI or Wisconsin or Georgia.  He won by several thousand votes, and yes, that easily COULD be manipulated to win with the mail in stuff on be validated on dates, sig, and so forth.

After I responded to you I realized there we two ways to take what you said, and figured I could have taken it the wrong direction

(03-04-2021, 05:40 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 05:13 PM)Beastdog Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 04:31 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: I think that's a fair stand....that he didn't factually get 80m votes.  I gave a way that I think has validity for him getting that many, which includes demonizing the Postmaster General/issuing absentee ballots to many, many more people than would ever consider voting, etc.

But many claim there's no way he got 80m but don't give any path to saying even some estimate on how many are invalid...and how that many could be filed.  HT says up to 78% of Detroit/Philly/Atlanta/etc are spurious, which would be millions of votes.  Dave says Biden likely got less than Obama, which is 11m plus.  How in the world did they pump up the vote by 11 million fraudulent votes?  Nothing presented in the last 4 months indicates that.

43k votes in 3 states that make up 7.2% of the US population decided this election. This number projects to 583k votes nationwide if we assume equal level of fraud over the entire population. And of course, the shenanigans were heavily concentrated in a handful of battleground states that all just so happened to have all the suspicious activity. So maybe 100-200k fraudulent votes "nationally" could have swung this election, maybe even less. That's less than 0.1% of the total votes, which is clearly plausible. You keeping up with the math, Alabuckeye?

There was not a need for 11 million fraudulent votes for Sleepy Joe Biden to steal the Presidency, more like 1% of that number.

Beast, Iâ€m sorry you are unable to keep up. In this thread multiple people have stated that there is no way Biden got more votes than Obama and Hillary. Thatâ€s where the 11 million came from that I was addressing.

I am keeping up. I never claimed there was 11 million fraudulent votes. I claim there was a very real possibility that there were enough fraudulent votes (about 1% of that number) to swing this election and this level of fraud was entirely plausible, given the rules that were put into place in 2020. Try to stay with me dude, and remember who started this thread and what that smart dude stated in the OP. Quit diverting it into different directions, kay?

The problem we have here is that people have been convinced that could and possibly are the same thing as is. Those same people have no interest in changing their mind, even when the alleged evidence of fraud is shown not to be. those same people also seem to have no problem with the fact that their only company is qanon, three insane lawyers, and ex-president who wants to pay off campaign debt by spreading lies and a senator that believes California fires were started by Jewish space lasers.

(03-04-2021, 05:57 PM)Beastdog Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 05:40 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 05:13 PM)Beastdog Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 04:31 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: I think that's a fair stand....that he didn't factually get 80m votes.  I gave a way that I think has validity for him getting that many, which includes demonizing the Postmaster General/issuing absentee ballots to many, many more people than would ever consider voting, etc.

But many claim there's no way he got 80m but don't give any path to saying even some estimate on how many are invalid...and how that many could be filed.  HT says up to 78% of Detroit/Philly/Atlanta/etc are spurious, which would be millions of votes.  Dave says Biden likely got less than Obama, which is 11m plus.  How in the world did they pump up the vote by 11 million fraudulent votes?  Nothing presented in the last 4 months indicates that.

43k votes in 3 states that make up 7.2% of the US population decided this election. This number projects to 583k votes nationwide if we assume equal level of fraud over the entire population. And of course, the shenanigans were heavily concentrated in a handful of battleground states that all just so happened to have all the suspicious activity. So maybe 100-200k fraudulent votes "nationally" could have swung this election, maybe even less. That's less than 0.1% of the total votes, which is clearly plausible. You keeping up with the math, Alabuckeye?

There was not a need for 11 million fraudulent votes for Sleepy Joe Biden to steal the Presidency, more like 1% of that number.

Beast, Iâ€m sorry you are unable to keep up. In this thread multiple people have stated that there is no way Biden got more votes than Obama and Hillary. Thatâ€s where the 11 million came from that I was addressing.

I am keeping up. I never claimed there was 11 million fraudulent votes. I claim there was a very real possibility that there were enough fraudulent votes (about 1% of that number) to swing this election and this level of fraud was entirely plausible, given the rules that were put into place in 2020. Try to stay with me dude, and remember who started this thread and what that smart dude stated in the OP. Quit diverting it into different directions, kay?

Go talk down to some one else Beast

Obama tallied under 8 million in California. Joe got over 11 million. The fact Joe got more votes nationally than Obama doesn't strike me as a stretch at all. That's a pretty big jump in one state percentagewise where fraud was unneeded.

(03-04-2021, 06:07 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 05:57 PM)Beastdog Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 05:40 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 05:13 PM)Beastdog Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 04:31 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: I think that's a fair stand....that he didn't factually get 80m votes.  I gave a way that I think has validity for him getting that many, which includes demonizing the Postmaster General/issuing absentee ballots to many, many more people than would ever consider voting, etc.

But many claim there's no way he got 80m but don't give any path to saying even some estimate on how many are invalid...and how that many could be filed.  HT says up to 78% of Detroit/Philly/Atlanta/etc are spurious, which would be millions of votes.  Dave says Biden likely got less than Obama, which is 11m plus.  How in the world did they pump up the vote by 11 million fraudulent votes?  Nothing presented in the last 4 months indicates that.

43k votes in 3 states that make up 7.2% of the US population decided this election. This number projects to 583k votes nationwide if we assume equal level of fraud over the entire population. And of course, the shenanigans were heavily concentrated in a handful of battleground states that all just so happened to have all the suspicious activity. So maybe 100-200k fraudulent votes "nationally" could have swung this election, maybe even less. That's less than 0.1% of the total votes, which is clearly plausible. You keeping up with the math, Alabuckeye?

There was not a need for 11 million fraudulent votes for Sleepy Joe Biden to steal the Presidency, more like 1% of that number.

Beast, Iâ€m sorry you are unable to keep up. In this thread multiple people have stated that there is no way Biden got more votes than Obama and Hillary. Thatâ€s where the 11 million came from that I was addressing.

I am keeping up. I never claimed there was 11 million fraudulent votes. I claim there was a very real possibility that there were enough fraudulent votes (about 1% of that number) to swing this election and this level of fraud was entirely plausible, given the rules that were put into place in 2020. Try to stay with me dude, and remember who started this thread and what that smart dude stated in the OP. Quit diverting it into different directions, kay?

Go talk down to some one else Beast

Let's see. You tell me to try and keep up. I respond by saying that you should try to stay with me. And then you get your panties in a bunch?

(03-04-2021, 06:27 PM)cincydawg Wrote: Obama tallied under 8 million in California.  Joe got over 11 million.  The fact Joe got more votes nationally than Obama doesn't strike me as a stretch at all.  That's a pretty big jump in one state percentagewise where fraud was unneeded.

It strikes me as weird though. A very popular guy with the left versus a guy that was a perennial also ran that needed a thumb on the scale to get the nomination and then barely campaigned. Strange.

I have seen NO EVIDENCE of voter fraud in North Korea's elections.

(03-04-2021, 06:55 PM)K9Buck Wrote: I have seen NO EVIDENCE of voter fraud in North Korea's elections.

Nor have I evenmr seen voter fraud in Russia either as ole vlad is just that popular

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(03-04-2021, 06:49 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 06:27 PM)cincydawg Wrote: Obama tallied under 8 million in California.  Joe got over 11 million.  The fact Joe got more votes nationally than Obama doesn't strike me as a stretch at all.  That's a pretty big jump in one state percentagewise where fraud was unneeded.

It strikes me as weird though. A very popular guy with the left versus a guy that was a perennial also ran that needed a thumb on the scale to get the nomination and then barely campaigned. Strange.

I don't find it weird at all.  Voting in many places was made much easier due to COVID AND a lot of folks really despised Trump, or were told to despise him.  OMB.

If you attach that increase over the national popular vote, it would make it clear Biden indeed got more votes than Obama, by quite a bit.

For folks locked into the stolen narrative, this of course won't resonate.