(02-06-2021, 09:13 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: You get to a point where you gotta make a decision. Do I quit reporting that there were problems with the election to keep my gig, or is my nest already feathered enough where I can just move on? If guys like Hannity and Carlson leave, Fox will be getting it from both ends -- lawsuit and far less revenue flow. Hannity and TC have the leverage right now, let's see what these guys do. I'm now hoping they jump ship. Will make my decision to pull the plug entirely that much easier. Â
To pretend there were no problems with the election is to be living an obscene delusion. Let's see how much integrity wins out. Â
Eventually this stuff is going to work its way all the way down to Joe Schmoe at work. Why did you call that transitioning person a he? You need to stop it, or walk. Â
"They" are going for it, and they know they have very little time to pull it off. This is going to happen at lightning speed. Already is. 2 weeks in and Trump is a non person on Twitter and now Lou Dobbs is off the air. But there's nothing to see here, right?
" To pretend there were no problems with the election is to be living an obscene delusion. Let's see how much integrity wins out. "
Come on, now! Saying " there were issues" in no way reflects the implications of Trump, his insane legal team and other waxko people like the My Pillow guy.Â
I don't think Trump should be impeached, though I'd like to see some legal consequence for spreading lies as he did, but you can't spew baseless lies, as Giuliani and The Kraken did, and not expect consequences. Unfortunately for Fox, they may have pulled in the lie reigns too late and are now trying to save themselves some lawsuit money.
It's like a university self-imposing an NCAA tournament ban when you know you're in trouble.
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(02-06-2021, 09:21 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (02-06-2021, 09:13 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: If guys like Hannity and Carlson leave, Fox will be getting it from both ends -- lawsuit and far less revenue flow.
That is what one would expect but I am not convinced it's true. Large corporate sponsors boycott both Carlson and Hannity in spite of their ratings. It's so bad with Tucker, that much of his commercial time reverts back to local ads. If Fox goes squishy moderate, their revenue might go up substantially.
Nah. Squishy moderate isn't the audience that drives their ratings. This is another creative swing of the ax at the First Amendment. But the govt isn't doing anything! Aren't they clever? As if we don't all see what's going on here. Fox will either die outright, or will be relegated to Headline News status. Reruns of Perfect Strangers on Nickelodian will get more ratings than Fox News.
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As I said in another thread, the election would be stolen in advance and it was. The left's election theft machine was in motion over a year before the election. They were looking to work their magic on things like mail in voting before the pandemic even happened. I believe they started cooking their stew, in places like Pa, circa September of 2019. Â
This was a 2 pronged attack on the election -- Use the court system to give its blessing on an end run around state legislatures and, of course, the huge push for mail-in voting. This was a ####### train wreck from the word go. Trump never had a chance and that is EXACTLY why he was ringing the alarm bells well in advance of the election. But where was the GOP machine? Asleep at the switch, or passively cheering it all on from the sidelines. I have a hunch it wasn't the former.
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(02-06-2021, 09:30 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: (02-06-2021, 09:21 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (02-06-2021, 09:13 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: If guys like Hannity and Carlson leave, Fox will be getting it from both ends -- lawsuit and far less revenue flow.
That is what one would expect but I am not convinced it's true. Large corporate sponsors boycott both Carlson and Hannity in spite of their ratings. It's so bad with Tucker, that much of his commercial time reverts back to local ads. If Fox goes squishy moderate, their revenue might go up substantially.
Nah. Squishy moderate isn't the audience that drives their ratings. This is another creative swing of the ax at the First Amendment. But the govt isn't doing anything! Aren't they clever? As if we don't all see what's going on here. Fox will either die outright, or will be relegated to Headline News status. Reruns of Perfect Strangers on Nickelodian will get more ratings than Fox News.
Yeah, but MSNBC and CNN probably bring more revenue than Fox News even with lower ratings because they aren't boycotted. The old rules don't apply today in politically correct corporate America which gives billions to groups like BLM even if it pisses off many of their customers. The NFL and NBA knew they would take a hit embracing black social justice crap but that didn't stop them.
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(02-06-2021, 09:47 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (02-06-2021, 09:30 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: (02-06-2021, 09:21 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: That is what one would expect but I am not convinced it's true. Large corporate sponsors boycott both Carlson and Hannity in spite of their ratings. It's so bad with Tucker, that much of his commercial time reverts back to local ads. If Fox goes squishy moderate, their revenue might go up substantially.
Nah. Squishy moderate isn't the audience that drives their ratings. This is another creative swing of the ax at the First Amendment. But the govt isn't doing anything! Aren't they clever? As if we don't all see what's going on here. Fox will either die outright, or will be relegated to Headline News status. Reruns of Perfect Strangers on Nickelodian will get more ratings than Fox News.
Yeah, but MSNBC and CNN probably bring more revenue than Fox News even with lower ratings because they aren't boycotted. The old rules don't apply today in politically correct corporate America which gives billions to groups like BLM even if it pisses off many of their customers. The NFL and NBA knew they would take a hit embracing black social justice crap but that didn't stop them.
Yeah I guess we are in a new paradigm now. It's hard to make any sense of it. Â
I guess the only solution is for MAGA country to unite and unplug. I mean, UNPLUG. Drop your cable package, whatever the form. Entertainment wise you can definitely live without a version of cable TV. You can be informed online and entertained with Netflix or some other service. I know they are all pretty much prog owned, but the best way to make these other news outlets feel it is to dry up their revenue, and that will only happen if people aren't watching cable, period. Your abortion on demand funding cell phone companies will start pulling ads from cable all over the place. Of course for this to work, people need to wake up. I don't think most people are even close to being awake though. On that note, what do we call conservative woke, coke?
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(02-06-2021, 09:56 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: (02-06-2021, 09:47 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (02-06-2021, 09:30 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: (02-06-2021, 09:21 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: That is what one would expect but I am not convinced it's true. Large corporate sponsors boycott both Carlson and Hannity in spite of their ratings. It's so bad with Tucker, that much of his commercial time reverts back to local ads. If Fox goes squishy moderate, their revenue might go up substantially.
Nah. Squishy moderate isn't the audience that drives their ratings. This is another creative swing of the ax at the First Amendment. But the govt isn't doing anything! Aren't they clever? As if we don't all see what's going on here. Fox will either die outright, or will be relegated to Headline News status. Reruns of Perfect Strangers on Nickelodian will get more ratings than Fox News.
Yeah, but MSNBC and CNN probably bring more revenue than Fox News even with lower ratings because they aren't boycotted. The old rules don't apply today in politically correct corporate America which gives billions to groups like BLM even if it pisses off many of their customers. The NFL and NBA knew they would take a hit embracing black social justice crap but that didn't stop them.
Yeah I guess we are in a new paradigm now. It's hard to make any sense of it. Â
I guess the only solution is for MAGA country to unite and unplug. I mean, UNPLUG. Drop your cable package, whatever the form. Entertainment wise you can definitely live without a version of cable TV. You can be informed online and entertained with Netflix or some other service. I know they are all pretty much prog owned, but the best way to make these other news outlets feel it is to dry up their revenue, and that will only happen if people aren't watching cable, period. Your abortion on demand funding cell phone companies will start pulling ads from cable all over the place. Of course for this to work, people need to wake up. I don't think most people are even close to being awake though. On that note, what do we call conservative woke, coke?
The good people will never get enough support to make a boycott work against the large mega corporations. With the media and all large institutions in full support of the Left it will never take hold. The Left can strike fear in the heart of big business. In fact, big business has has become Leftists itself now.
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It's telling how even in a FREE country these corporations fall like dominoes. I mean it's not like it's 1937 in Nazi Germany. Want a bunch of puffters. Yeah I know, the bottom line. But is it really the bottom line, or just simply "market research" from a group of woke twerps?
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(02-06-2021, 10:08 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: It's telling how even in a FREE country these corporations fall like dominoes. I mean it's not like it's 1937 in Nazi Germany. Want a bunch of puffters. Yeah I know, the bottom line. But is it really the bottom line, or just simply "market research" from a group of woke twerps?
In Nazi Germany, big business loved their country. In America today, the mega corporations have no attachment to America, the country. They will join the Left in wrecking the real America and go along to get along.
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“Eight weeks from the election and we still donâ€t have verifiable, tangible support for the crimes that everyone knows were committed...†Lou Dobbs said on air in January. Repeated here in the Nuthouse, often. Thatâ€s such a touchy - feely thing to say. He (and you guys) just knows, without any proof, that something was wrong.
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Fox News has to move to try and limit their libel damages.
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(02-06-2021, 10:24 AM)somenole Wrote: “Eight weeks from the election and we still donâ€t have verifiable, tangible support for the crimes that everyone knows were committed...†Lou Dobbs said on air in January. Repeated here in the Nuthouse, often. Thatâ€s such a touchy - feely thing to say. He (and you guys) just knows, without any proof, that something was wrong.
Just imagine what would have happened if just ONE lawsuit was allowed to go to trial. JUST ONE. Oh, you can't because they weren't allowed. The swamp finally won and the last coup finally worked. Enjoy the world you've brought your children and grandchildren. I hope you have a nice long life so you can see it personally.
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Then thereâ€s the 2016 election, where Trump colluded with the Russians.  Trump should have filed multiple lawsuits against msm outlets.  The fall out from that would have been fun.  Iâ€m guessing all their anchors/talking heads would still be gainfully employed
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