(01-20-2021, 10:19 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote:

(01-20-2021, 10:11 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote:

(01-20-2021, 10:08 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:

(01-20-2021, 10:02 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I think HT is just viewing it from the other side of the fence.  He's speaking to the reaction to MAGA and our reaction to what Joe is about to bring

Alabuck has a tendency to make invalid moral equivalency arguments.

At first I agreed with him, then I picked through your post a little more.  It was about a reaction, but just the other side of the coin of said reaction.

If HT's was an independent post, it might have merit.  But it was a response to a general statement by Jacket. 

It's all about "If you aren't 100% in agreement, you are wrong".  This board is becoming more and more like that.

The truth is the truth and our reaction today is nothing like the reaction against Trump in 2016.  The Left opposed Trump with insane hatred as knee jerk reaction, not any reasonable substance.

(01-20-2021, 10:22 AM)Syncro Wrote:

(01-20-2021, 10:13 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Marxist, street agitator, [b]ORGANIZER. 

Call it whatever you'd like, but there is an argument to be made that he was far more effective from 2017-2021 than he was from 2008-2016.

I absolutely hate the guy, but the work he did behind the scenes was pretty masterful.  It certainly helped that he stacked the deck in every agency and most courts before he left office...

He sets the tone but the heavy lifting was done by people he retained like Valerie Jarrett and of course the media was his hand maiden.

(01-20-2021, 10:27 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:

(01-20-2021, 10:19 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote:

(01-20-2021, 10:11 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote:

(01-20-2021, 10:08 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:

(01-20-2021, 10:02 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I think HT is just viewing it from the other side of the fence.  He's speaking to the reaction to MAGA and our reaction to what Joe is about to bring

Alabuck has a tendency to make invalid moral equivalency arguments.

At first I agreed with him, then I picked through your post a little more.  It was about a reaction, but just the other side of the coin of said reaction.

If HT's was an independent post, it might have merit.  But it was a response to a general statement by Jacket. 

It's all about "If you aren't 100% in agreement, you are wrong".  This board is becoming more and more like that.

The truth is the truth and our reaction today is nothing like the reaction against Trump in 2016.  The Left opposed Trump with insane hatred as knee jerk reaction, not any reasonable substance.

nah, you've showed that you react in a knee jerk manner.  Making assumptions about people and essentially seeing life through a binocular approach.  There's a great comparison made.


And again, I'm not saying that the concerns aren't real.  Just the reactions.

(01-20-2021, 10:27 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:

(01-20-2021, 10:19 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote:

(01-20-2021, 10:11 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote:

(01-20-2021, 10:08 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:

(01-20-2021, 10:02 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I think HT is just viewing it from the other side of the fence.  He's speaking to the reaction to MAGA and our reaction to what Joe is about to bring

Alabuck has a tendency to make invalid moral equivalency arguments.

At first I agreed with him, then I picked through your post a little more.  It was about a reaction, but just the other side of the coin of said reaction.

If HT's was an independent post, it might have merit.  But it was a response to a general statement by Jacket. 

It's all about "If you aren't 100% in agreement, you are wrong".  This board is becoming more and more like that.

The truth is the truth and our reaction today is nothing like the reaction against Trump in 2016.  The Left opposed Trump with insane hatred as knee jerk reaction, not any reasonable substance.

This is absolutely true.  Trump was persecuted BEFORE he was elected and it continues today.  All of it was BS and lies but no one ever apologized for it.  The left praised it.  The media spread it.  All lies.  On the other hand, we don't know what we don't know about biden.  The left and media have refused to explore any allegations of corruption that appear to be right there out in the open.  An election that everyone in power refuses to look at in any meaningful way because IT'S OVER.  GET OVER IT!   This isn't the same at all.  I'm very concerned for my children and grandchildren.

Biden isn't meant to serve 4 years. I truly believe that. He's a figure head. Harris is just to say we have a black female VP and soon President. It's all PC from the left at the expense of the American people. Trump for all his faults at least cared, these people don't care.

(01-20-2021, 10:52 AM)UNCLife Wrote: Biden isn't meant to serve 4 years. I truly believe that. He's a figure head. Harris is just to say we have a black female VP and soon President. It's all PC from the left at the expense of the American people. Trump for all his faults at least cared, these people don't care.

You could very well be right.....time will tell.  Harris is a PC candidate.

Depending on how you are defining 'cared', I think Joe Biden cares.  I disagree with most of his vision for America, but I think he cares.

(01-20-2021, 11:07 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote:

(01-20-2021, 10:52 AM)UNCLife Wrote: Biden isn't meant to serve 4 years. I truly believe that. He's a figure head. Harris is just to say we have a black female VP and soon President. It's all PC from the left at the expense of the American people. Trump for all his faults at least cared, these people don't care.

You could very well be right.....time will tell.  Harris is a PC candidate.

Depending on how you are defining 'cared', I think Joe Biden cares.  I disagree with most of his vision for America, but I think he cares.

All he cares about is lining his pockets with cash and doing and saying whatever is necessary to appease the Bolsheviks who got him elected.

"How screwed are we?"

Nobody will be surprised by my position, but I think you'll all be very disappointed in how little your lives change and how few terrible things Biden & Co. actually do.

(01-20-2021, 11:13 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: "How screwed are we?"

Nobody will be surprised by my position, but I think you'll all be very disappointed in how little your lives change and how few terrible things Biden & Co. actually do.

In your case, that is probably true because you have no independent thinking capability and rely completely on whatever the MSM feeds you.  You likely don't even understand the drastic paradigm shift that Obama sent us into that has led to what we have today in terms of making radical groups and ideas mainstream.

My life changed enormously for the worse under Obama and the ACA. I imagine small business owners will bear the brunt of life altering policies this time around. We'll see.

Small Business Owners have been bearing the brunt of the Pandemic mandates since March.  Add a few policies (tax increases and new Pandemic rules) from the Biden Crime Family and it wont take much more to take them down.

(01-20-2021, 11:13 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: "How screwed are we?"

Nobody will be surprised by my position, but I think you'll all be very disappointed in how little your lives change and how few terrible things Biden & Co. actually do.

Ending the filibuster
packing the court
adding two states
raising taxes
opening boarders to all illegals
shutting down domestic oil production
citizenship for all illegals
mail in voting made law in all states
shutting down free speech to conservatives
making everyone who opposes them a racist
Free medical for all
Tuition forgiveness for all (except those of us who already paid it)
and on and on and on.................................................................................................................................................................

Naw, I don't see any changes in our lives.  Brilliant observation P1tch.

Alabuckeye Wrote:It depends. On a micro level, presidential change has small impact on your day to day life. Your ability to have a great life changes not one whit today.

On a macro level......we will see. Yeah, all the dire comments to this point, some of which I agree are dangers. I agree, they will be tested. China.....Iran......Russia.......NK.........Islamist extremism, all will want to know how they react. And will likely push buttons.

On a "micro level" we'll see what impact having gasoline go up $1.00+/gallon, how defunding police, how caravans of illegals flooding our hospitals and welfare roles, how new strangling regulations on business, $15/hr minimum wages, etc., will have on us.

(01-20-2021, 11:57 AM)TakeThePoints Wrote:

Alabuckeye Wrote:It depends. On a micro level, presidential change has small impact on your day to day life. Your ability to have a great life changes not one whit today.

On a macro level......we will see. Yeah, all the dire comments to this point, some of which I agree are dangers. I agree, they will be tested. China.....Iran......Russia.......NK.........Islamist extremism, all will want to know how they react. And will likely push buttons.

On a "micro level" we'll see what impact having gasoline go up $1.00+/gallon, how defunding police, how caravans of illegals flooding our hospitals and welfare roles, how new strangling regulations on business, $15/hr minimum wages, etc., will have on us.

you realize that many have already backed up on the whole 'defund' nonsense right?

I know, Dave has informed me that gas will go up dramatically immediately.  I'll not hold my breath.  If we can see a drilling revival under Obama and all his nonsense, I suspect Joe won't be worse.

(01-20-2021, 12:02 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: I know, Dave has informed me that gas will go up dramatically immediately.  I'll not hold my breath.  If we can see a drilling revival under Obama and all his nonsense, I suspect Joe won't be worse.

The drilling revival under Soetoro was in spite of him, not because of him. Biden will do everything he can to put the squeeze on the entire industry in every way he has the ability to do so.

I fully expect fuel costs to jump, but that isn't a very bold prediction.

I began selling off assets last year to simplify my life to the bare minimum. Once the Sickness is over I plan to find a nice, warm place to spend the next few years and not give a single f*ck about what Biden and the wh*re are up to