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(07-15-2020, 04:21 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote: (07-15-2020, 03:09 PM)zigbee Wrote: (07-15-2020, 03:07 PM)Conanthelibrarian Wrote: They are lucky they didnâ€t get shot. The rioters. At some point this has to turn and people return to sanity. I've been saying this and we saw CHOP in Seattle taken back, next NYC will have to turn it around, and Portland OR has it's hands full. Sucking up to the criminals of BLM and their Antifa terrorist pals will just get you hurt. They hate period. This is the world their goals will give us. Venezuela basically.
NYPD Chief of Department knelt with BLM in June gets attacked in July.
NYPD chief of department injured during protest on Brooklyn Bridge
DC is a symptom, not the cause. The cause is basic voter stupidity and economic ignorance.
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(07-16-2020, 12:14 AM)ChinaBuck Wrote: And here we go again....
We had a cadence in basic training. Every single thread p!tch ruins I'm reminded of marching dum dums around base at the age of 17.
Here we go again
same old sh!t again
marching down the avenue
32 more days and we'll be thru
DC is a symptom, not the cause. The cause is basic voter stupidity and economic ignorance.
(07-16-2020, 08:42 AM)zigbee Wrote: (07-15-2020, 11:42 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (07-15-2020, 10:02 PM)zigbee Wrote: (07-15-2020, 09:56 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (07-15-2020, 09:17 PM)zigbee Wrote: False indeed. The riots were engineered and produced by people who didn't give one damn about a guy using counterfeit money and high on meth.  Justice dept is arresting dozens with ties to anarchy and anti America activity. Deaths by cops are not at any type of all time high, Shooting deaths by cops of whites and blacks I'm sure are about equal, and the rioters like in Seattle were ANTIFA which is a white group which is anarchist so you are using a lie for argument.  AND...a high % of those engaged in police issues when arrested could avoid the problems of a beating if they would comply.  Case in point would be the idiot who was killed last month in Atlanta.
The protests started because of the incident. The fact that others wrongly escalated the situation doesn't change that.
For, oh, about the 20th time, non-compliance alone is not justification for beating/killing an innocent person. No, it increased into riots and lately one BLM rioter shot and killed peaceful protester. ANTIFA had been attacking conservative groups just for handing out literature, or making a stand, or wearing gear or supporting Trump,  With a Terrorist group like ANTIFA, Non compliance is the number one reason criminals are injured or dies for their actions and attacks on police doing their jobs.
The
Protests
Started
Because
of
the
George
Floyd
Killing.
And, again, non-compliance alone doesn't not justify killing and/or beating the hell out of someone. AND were hijacked for violence.  FACT
https://www.foxnews.com/media/community-...s-attacked
BLM and-anarchists count on fools.  Donâ€t be one
My response below is what started this conversation. Not a single thing you have said, nor a single point you have made, changes the truth of what I said.
(07-15-2020, 04:47 PM)Dzone1 Wrote: Need to start shooting these people to send a message.
.... that's part of the reason we are where we are now.
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(07-16-2020, 09:31 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (07-16-2020, 08:42 AM)zigbee Wrote: (07-15-2020, 11:42 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (07-15-2020, 10:02 PM)zigbee Wrote: (07-15-2020, 09:56 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: The protests started because of the incident. The fact that others wrongly escalated the situation doesn't change that.
For, oh, about the 20th time, non-compliance alone is not justification for beating/killing an innocent person. No, it increased into riots and lately one BLM rioter shot and killed peaceful protester. ANTIFA had been attacking conservative groups just for handing out literature, or making a stand, or wearing gear or supporting Trump,  With a Terrorist group like ANTIFA, Non compliance is the number one reason criminals are injured or dies for their actions and attacks on police doing their jobs.
The
Protests
Started
Because
of
the
George
Floyd
Killing.
And, again, non-compliance alone doesn't not justify killing and/or beating the hell out of someone. AND were hijacked for violence.  FACT
https://www.foxnews.com/media/community-...s-attacked
BLM and-anarchists count on fools.  Donâ€t be one
My response below is what started this conversation. Not a single thing you have said, nor a single point you have made, changes the truth of what I said.
(07-15-2020, 04:47 PM)Dzone1 Wrote: Need to start shooting these people to send a message.
.... that's part of the reason we are where we are now. AND not a single thing you said reverses that this was hijacked for violence. FACT....also, when not complying for arrest the CRIMINAL chooses how this plays out not the officers.  No one said it was an EXCUSE to kill or beat...it's an end result from the criminals fighting. Good riddance to the ones killed and nice job on the ones beaten.  WE see now how pandering to fools gets officers shot, killed, and injured. These criminals get everything they deserve and I'm sure the members here will support this reply.  BLM and ANTIFA count on fools for support....don't be one.
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Here is MORE PROOF these so called protests were hijacked for violence
https://www.foxnews.com/media/portland-p...one-morgan
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Basically left wingers and criminals. Criminals hate the police and the left wingers want to destroy symbols of authority and actually want to destroy everything about the US. There might be a handful of doofus liberals wandering about thinking police kill blacks with regularity for no reason but they are a distinct clueless minority.Â
When they get what they want many more blacks will be killed. Just the attitudes they've brought to the table has resulted in more black people being killed. Criminals don't want to be policed. The less they are policed the more people they kill.
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(07-16-2020, 09:49 AM)3rdgensooner Wrote: Basically left wingers and criminals. Criminals hate the police and the left wingers want to destroy symbols of authority and actually want to destroy everything about the US. There might be a handful of doofus liberals wandering about thinking police kill blacks with regularity for no reason but they are a distinct clueless minority.Â
When they get what they want many more blacks will be killed. Just the attitudes they've brought to the table has resulted in more black people being killed. Criminals don't want to be policed. The less they are policed the more people they kill. And..HOW Many police supported these idiots protesting?  In NY the head dog over the police force got his skull bashed in and he kneeled! LOL at the fools saying we need to give into the protesters or arresting people who get killed caused this violence. CRIMINALS cause violence toward police and citizens. The protesters had their little protest, it was hijacked, and people killed. You cannot kow tow to these criminals and be sympathetic.  They will take over cities, bash and kill police, and kill and hurt citizens as we've now seen in parts of the nation, particularly NYC.
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It would be a good idea to stop conflating the protesters with the rioters and looters. There are two distinct groups.
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(07-16-2020, 09:56 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: It would be a good idea to stop conflating the protesters with the rioters and looters. There are two distinct groups. Yeah one exists and the other pretty much doesn't.
(07-16-2020, 09:35 AM)zigbee Wrote: (07-16-2020, 09:31 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (07-16-2020, 08:42 AM)zigbee Wrote: (07-15-2020, 11:42 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (07-15-2020, 10:02 PM)zigbee Wrote: No, it increased into riots and lately one BLM rioter shot and killed peaceful protester. ANTIFA had been attacking conservative groups just for handing out literature, or making a stand, or wearing gear or supporting Trump,  With a Terrorist group like ANTIFA, Non compliance is the number one reason criminals are injured or dies for their actions and attacks on police doing their jobs.
The
Protests
Started
Because
of
the
George
Floyd
Killing.
And, again, non-compliance alone doesn't not justify killing and/or beating the hell out of someone. AND were hijacked for violence.  FACT
https://www.foxnews.com/media/community-...s-attacked
BLM and-anarchists count on fools.  Donâ€t be one
My response below is what started this conversation. Not a single thing you have said, nor a single point you have made, changes the truth of what I said.
(07-15-2020, 04:47 PM)Dzone1 Wrote: Need to start shooting these people to send a message.
.... that's part of the reason we are where we are now. AND not a single thing you said reverses that this was hijacked for violence. FACT
I've already agreed with this point.
....also, when not complying for arrest the CRIMINAL chooses how this plays out not the officers.  No one said it was an EXCUSE to kill or beat...it's an end result from the criminals fighting.Â
Incorrect. Just because someone is resisting does not mean the cop has to beat them. My kids have resisted doing things I've wanted them to do, or going places I wanted to go, but at no point have I beat them for resisting.
Good riddance to the ones killed and nice job on the ones beaten.  WE see now how pandering to fools gets officers shot, killed, and injured.Â
Or we are seeing the results cops infringing on the rights of people and getting away with it. If cops were held accountable when they wrong somebody, incidents like this wouldn't happen and people would not create protests that can be hijacked.
These criminals get everything they deserve
Again, the problem is that suspects get MORE than they deserve and cops aren't held accountable.
and I'm sure the members here will support this reply.  BLM and ANTIFA count on fools for support....don't be one.
You go back to this straw man like a moth to light. I don't support unjustified violence by protesters AND I don't support unjustified violence by cops.Â
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(07-15-2020, 05:31 PM)BWT30 Wrote: One thing we don't have,(or that I haven't seen) that I see other countries have is water cannons. They would disperse the idiot protestors but quick
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(07-16-2020, 10:04 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (07-16-2020, 09:35 AM)zigbee Wrote: (07-16-2020, 09:31 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (07-16-2020, 08:42 AM)zigbee Wrote: (07-15-2020, 11:42 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: The
Protests
Started
Because
of
the
George
Floyd
Killing.
And, again, non-compliance alone doesn't not justify killing and/or beating the hell out of someone. AND were hijacked for violence.  FACT
https://www.foxnews.com/media/community-...s-attacked
BLM and-anarchists count on fools.  Donâ€t be one
My response below is what started this conversation. Not a single thing you have said, nor a single point you have made, changes the truth of what I said.
(07-15-2020, 04:47 PM)Dzone1 Wrote: Need to start shooting these people to send a message.
.... that's part of the reason we are where we are now. AND not a single thing you said reverses that this was hijacked for violence. FACT
I've already agreed with this point.
....also, when not complying for arrest the CRIMINAL chooses how this plays out not the officers.  No one said it was an EXCUSE to kill or beat...it's an end result from the criminals fighting.Â
Incorrect. Just because someone is resisting does not mean the cop has to beat them. My kids have resisted doing things I've wanted them to do, or going places I wanted to go, but had no points have I beat them for resisting. *********STRAW MAN***********
Good riddance to the ones killed and nice job on the ones beaten.  WE see now how pandering to fools gets officers shot, killed, and injured.Â
Or we are seeing the results cops infringing on the rights of people and getting away with it. If cops were held accountable when they wrong somebody, incidents like this wouldn't happen and people would not create protests that can be hijacked.
These criminals get everything they deserve
Again, the problem is that suspects get MORE than they deserve and cops aren't held accountable.
and I'm sure the members here will support this reply.  BLM and ANTIFA count on fools for support....don't be one.
You go back to this straw man like a moth to light. *******STRAW MAN********** I don't support unjustified violence by protesters AND I don't support unjustified violence by cops. Oh, the irony.
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