The Supreme Court ruling affirming the Second Amendment right to conceal carry a firearm has been defeated by a new NY state law effectively banning concealed carry in most places. And that's that ...
Why New York’s New Gun-Control Package Could Impact America
https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/conte...t-america/
(09-08-2022, 08:31 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: [ -> ]The Supreme Court ruling affirming the Second Amendment right to conceal carry a firearm has been defeated by a new NY state law effectively banning concealed carry in most places. And that's that ...
Why New York’s New Gun-Control Package Could Impact America
https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/conte...t-america/
Lol....back to court and shot down.....big nothing
The right to keep and BEAR arms is in the constitution. I don't see how a state law can be allowed to nullify the BoR. This law should be taken to court and it *should* be struck down.
Next time through SCOTUS (and this will be challenged) these restrictions will be very much minimized. NY will always be anti second amendment but THEY TOO will be restricted as to where they can ban guns. In the long run it may be best to move out of these anti-gun/pro-violence states. That's my story and I'm sticking with it.
(09-08-2022, 08:46 AM)dunefan Wrote: [ -> ]Next time through SCOTUS (and this will be challenged) these restrictions will be very much minimized. NY will always be anti second amendment but THEY TOO will be restricted as to where they can ban guns. In the long run it may be best to move out of these anti-gun/pro-violence states. That's my story and I'm sticking with it.
How many years did it take the original case to work its way up through the court system? It was actually considered a big victory that the US Supreme Court decided to even hear it. No guarantee that will happen again if such a case is even brought.
Such goes the process as it’s occurred for …..a long time.
I agree with Dune. States are making their case as laboratories and experiments. Non constitutional behavior should be knocked down…as is happening.
"Justice delayed is justice denied."
(09-08-2022, 08:55 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: [ -> ]"Justice delayed is justice denied."
"Victory is sweetest when you've known defeat."
Time will tell.
“To be wealthy and honored in an unjust society is a disgrace.â€
― Confucius,
The reality is the vast majority of people in New York state do not want legitimate gun rights. The state is politically controlled by the people in NYC who would rather get mauled each day in the NYC jungle than have someone carrying a firearm legally for self protection. If they wanted real gun rights, they would not elect the Marxists they elect. Yeah maybe someone will bring this back into court but so what? The Supreme Court is not going to specifically define what the law in NY should look like.
In New York state, it is now a felony to carry any firearm in:
(a) any place owned or under the control of federal, state or local government, for the purpose of government administration, including courts;
(b) any location providing health, behavioral health, or chemical dependance care or services;
© any place of worship or religious observation;
(d) libraries, public playgrounds, public parks, and zoos;
(e) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, funded, or approved by the office of children and family services that provides services to children, youth, or young adults, any legally exempt childcare provider; a childcare program for which a permit to operate such program has been issued by the department of health and mental hygiene pursuant to the health code of the city of New York;
(f) nursery schools, preschools, and summer camps;
(g) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office for people with developmental disabilities;
(h) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by office of addiction services and supports;
(i) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office of mental health;
(j) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office of temporary and disability assistance;
(k) homeless shelters, runaway homeless youth shelters, family shelters, shelters for adults, domestic violence shelters, and emergency shelters, and residential programs for victims of domestic violence;
(l) residential settings licensed, certified, regulated, funded, or operated by the department of health;
(m) in or upon any building or grounds, owned or leased, of any educational institutions, colleges and universities, licensed private career schools, school districts, public schools, private schools licensed under article one hundred one of the education law, charter schools, non-public schools, board of cooperative educational services, special act schools, preschool special education programs, private residential or non-residential schools for the education of students with disabilities, and any state-operated or state-supported schools;
(n) any place, conveyance, or vehicle used for public transportation or public transit, subway cars, train cars, buses, ferries, railroad, omnibus, marine or aviation transportation; or any facility used for or in connection with service in the transportation of passengers, airports, train stations, subway and rail stations, and bus terminals;
(o) any establishment issued a license for on-premise consumption pursuant to article four, four-A, five, or six of the alcoholic beverage control law where alcohol is consumed and any establishment licensed under article four of the cannabis law for on-premise consumption;
(p) any place used for the performance, art entertainment, gaming, or sporting events such as theaters, stadiums, racetracks, museums, amusement parks, performance venues, concerts, exhibits, conference centers, banquet halls, and gaming facilities and video lottery terminal facilities as licensed by the gaming commission;
(q) any location being used as a polling place;
® any public sidewalk or other public area restricted from general public access for a limited time or special event that has been issued a permit for such time or event by a governmental entity, or subject to specific, heightened law enforcement protection, or has otherwise had such access restricted by a governmental entity, provided such location is identified as such by clear and conspicuous signage;
(s) any gathering of individuals to collectively express their constitutional rights to protest or assemble;
(t) the area commonly known as Times Square, as such area is determined and identified by the city of New York; provided such area shall be clearly and conspicuously identified with signage.
So, citizens can’t exercise their constitutional right to arms at church, or, ironically, even at a protest of the diminishment of their right to bear arms. The list of prohibited places goes on and on and on.
(09-08-2022, 09:21 AM)davebucknut Wrote: [ -> ]In New York state, it is now a felony to carry any firearm in:
(a) any place owned or under the control of federal, state or local government, for the purpose of government administration, including courts;
(b) any location providing health, behavioral health, or chemical dependance care or services;
© any place of worship or religious observation;
(d) libraries, public playgrounds, public parks, and zoos;
(e) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, funded, or approved by the office of children and family services that provides services to children, youth, or young adults, any legally exempt childcare provider; a childcare program for which a permit to operate such program has been issued by the department of health and mental hygiene pursuant to the health code of the city of New York;
(f) nursery schools, preschools, and summer camps;
(g) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office for people with developmental disabilities;
(h) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by office of addiction services and supports;
(i) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office of mental health;
(j) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office of temporary and disability assistance;
(k) homeless shelters, runaway homeless youth shelters, family shelters, shelters for adults, domestic violence shelters, and emergency shelters, and residential programs for victims of domestic violence;
(l) residential settings licensed, certified, regulated, funded, or operated by the department of health;
(m) in or upon any building or grounds, owned or leased, of any educational institutions, colleges and universities, licensed private career schools, school districts, public schools, private schools licensed under article one hundred one of the education law, charter schools, non-public schools, board of cooperative educational services, special act schools, preschool special education programs, private residential or non-residential schools for the education of students with disabilities, and any state-operated or state-supported schools;
(n) any place, conveyance, or vehicle used for public transportation or public transit, subway cars, train cars, buses, ferries, railroad, omnibus, marine or aviation transportation; or any facility used for or in connection with service in the transportation of passengers, airports, train stations, subway and rail stations, and bus terminals;
(o) any establishment issued a license for on-premise consumption pursuant to article four, four-A, five, or six of the alcoholic beverage control law where alcohol is consumed and any establishment licensed under article four of the cannabis law for on-premise consumption;
(p) any place used for the performance, art entertainment, gaming, or sporting events such as theaters, stadiums, racetracks, museums, amusement parks, performance venues, concerts, exhibits, conference centers, banquet halls, and gaming facilities and video lottery terminal facilities as licensed by the gaming commission;
(q) any location being used as a polling place;
® any public sidewalk or other public area restricted from general public access for a limited time or special event that has been issued a permit for such time or event by a governmental entity, or subject to specific, heightened law enforcement protection, or has otherwise had such access restricted by a governmental entity, provided such location is identified as such by clear and conspicuous signage;
(s) any gathering of individuals to collectively express their constitutional rights to protest or assemble;
(t) the area commonly known as Times Square, as such area is determined and identified by the city of New York; provided such area shall be clearly and conspicuously identified with signage.
So, citizens can’t exercise their constitutional right to arms at church, or, ironically, even at a protest of the diminishment of their right to bear arms. The list of prohibited places goes on and on and on.
It isn't worth the legal risk to even try. You could easily be in violation of the law and not even realize it.
(09-08-2022, 09:22 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-08-2022, 09:21 AM)davebucknut Wrote: [ -> ]In New York state, it is now a felony to carry any firearm in:
(a) any place owned or under the control of federal, state or local government, for the purpose of government administration, including courts;
(b) any location providing health, behavioral health, or chemical dependance care or services;
© any place of worship or religious observation;
(d) libraries, public playgrounds, public parks, and zoos;
(e) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, funded, or approved by the office of children and family services that provides services to children, youth, or young adults, any legally exempt childcare provider; a childcare program for which a permit to operate such program has been issued by the department of health and mental hygiene pursuant to the health code of the city of New York;
(f) nursery schools, preschools, and summer camps;
(g) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office for people with developmental disabilities;
(h) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by office of addiction services and supports;
(i) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office of mental health;
(j) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office of temporary and disability assistance;
(k) homeless shelters, runaway homeless youth shelters, family shelters, shelters for adults, domestic violence shelters, and emergency shelters, and residential programs for victims of domestic violence;
(l) residential settings licensed, certified, regulated, funded, or operated by the department of health;
(m) in or upon any building or grounds, owned or leased, of any educational institutions, colleges and universities, licensed private career schools, school districts, public schools, private schools licensed under article one hundred one of the education law, charter schools, non-public schools, board of cooperative educational services, special act schools, preschool special education programs, private residential or non-residential schools for the education of students with disabilities, and any state-operated or state-supported schools;
(n) any place, conveyance, or vehicle used for public transportation or public transit, subway cars, train cars, buses, ferries, railroad, omnibus, marine or aviation transportation; or any facility used for or in connection with service in the transportation of passengers, airports, train stations, subway and rail stations, and bus terminals;
(o) any establishment issued a license for on-premise consumption pursuant to article four, four-A, five, or six of the alcoholic beverage control law where alcohol is consumed and any establishment licensed under article four of the cannabis law for on-premise consumption;
(p) any place used for the performance, art entertainment, gaming, or sporting events such as theaters, stadiums, racetracks, museums, amusement parks, performance venues, concerts, exhibits, conference centers, banquet halls, and gaming facilities and video lottery terminal facilities as licensed by the gaming commission;
(q) any location being used as a polling place;
® any public sidewalk or other public area restricted from general public access for a limited time or special event that has been issued a permit for such time or event by a governmental entity, or subject to specific, heightened law enforcement protection, or has otherwise had such access restricted by a governmental entity, provided such location is identified as such by clear and conspicuous signage;
(s) any gathering of individuals to collectively express their constitutional rights to protest or assemble;
(t) the area commonly known as Times Square, as such area is determined and identified by the city of New York; provided such area shall be clearly and conspicuously identified with signage.
So, citizens can’t exercise their constitutional right to arms at church, or, ironically, even at a protest of the diminishment of their right to bear arms. The list of prohibited places goes on and on and on.
It isn't worth the legal risk to even try. You could easily be in violation of the law and not even realize it.
Exactly, the way they wrote it, you could be walking on a public sidewalk and easily fall into one of these categories just for being out in front of one of these places.
But in 5-10 years scotus "might" pick it up and "maybe" will rule correctly.
Bammer and Zig are pounding their chests and brushing it off though.
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And you just never hear them proposing an actual amendment to the constitution. Wanting to? Sure some places. Actually doing it? No
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