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(05-03-2019, 02:04 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: How much of this do y'all think is Mueller covering his own azz regarding the wider Russian nuke/CF ordeal?  In other words, was Mueller pushed to "investigate" Trump because he had a vested interest in keeping this side show circus alive?   i.e. keep some heat off him as well since he was compromised?  I mean I doubt he was picked randomly or merely because he was simply a good lawyer
I know Rep. Louie Gohmert has accused Muller of using the Trump investigation to clean up the Uranium On deal. I don't know if that's true. It could be true.
There is also the thought Mueller's real directive was to clean up the bread crumbs left by the FBI/DOJ spying operation and produce convictions that can be used to tangibly show something illegal happened. I think that is more plausible.
The issue that has rarely been discussed is the same FBI agents and lawyers and staff investigating Trump in 2016 were transferred to the Mueller team in 2017. Those 40 agents and staff and 20 lawyers spent three years trying to remove Trump and nullify the election results for purely political motives. Did they know and just went along with the scheme or were they unaware? Are we supposed to believe a team of 60 agents and staff and lawyers, all intelligent and experienced, didn't know the investigation was political BS from the get go? What does a team of 60 law enforcement officers working on a fabricated investigation for three years reveal about the integrity of the FBI as an institution?
Then, I think how incredibly close the FBI/DOJ, Obama, HRC, etc got to covering this up, all of it... 100%. And then I wonder about past investigations and conclusions... 9/11, Boston Marathon bombing, San Bernardino, Pulse Nightclub, Parkland FL, Mandalay Bay, etc etc etc. Maybe it's just me who thinks if Trump doesn't win, none of this gets exposed and anyone proffering this actually occurred would have been labeled a conspiracy nut, insane and mercilessly mocked and shunned.
Grassley sent a letter to Barr on March 8 asking the attorney general to look into the special counselâ€s “selective use†of emails in the Papadopoulos “statement of offense". He highlighted two emails Mueller used: May 4, 2016 and Aug 15, 2016. Grassley asserts Mueller...
Fed “speculation and innuendo†about Russian collusion by withholding key details from emails Muller used in the George Papadopoulos' "statement of offense".
Failed to correct media reports that cited Papadopoulos' court filings as evidence of Russian collusion.Â
May 4 emails... Grassley said omitted emails sent by Manafortâ€s deputy, Rick Gates, show he suggested a low-level adviser should reject Russian requests for meetings.
Mueller included Papadopoulos' email to Trump campaign:  “[Russia] has been eager to meet Mr. Trump for quite sometime and have been reaching out to me to discuss.â€
Mueller included Manafort's response: “We need someone to communicate that DT is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal.â€
Mueller omitted Gates' email: “Agree. What if I get our correspondence coordinator to do it. This is the person responding to all mail of non-importance. It would be a general letter."
Mueller omitted Manafort's reply: “good.â€
Aug 15 emails... Grassley said the emails make clear Papadopoulos asked Clovis to join him on conversations with representatives from several foreign governments, not just Russia.
Mueller included Clovis' email to Papodopoulos: “I would encourage you... to make the trip, if it is feasible".
Mueller omitted the rest of Clovis' email: "My thought is that we probably should not go forward with any meetings with the Russians until we have had occasion to sit with our NATO allies, especially France, Germany and Great Britain. We need to reassure our allies that we are not going to advance anything with Russia until we have everyone on the same page.â€
Dirty tricks by Mueller Weissman and his team.Â
What scum bags.Â
Dirty copsÂ
Dirty lawyer prosecutors.Â
Thatâ€s why the judges want all exculpatory the nformation brought forward
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The FISC ruling says... Obama intel community surveillance against US citizens since 2012 was the result of "deliberate decision making".
March 2016... Mike Rogers reports the abuse.
April 2016... 3rd party access to FISA database is shutdown.
April 2016... Fusion is hired to allegedly perform political research on Trump.
(05-24-2019, 07:10 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: The FISC ruling says... Obama intel community surveillance against US citizens since 2012 was the result of "deliberate decision making".
March 2016... Mike Rogers reports the abuse.
April 2016... 3rd party access to FISA database is shutdown.
April 2016... Fusion is hired to allegedly perform political research on Trump.
National hero Admiral Mike Rogers.
DC is a symptom, not the cause. The cause is basic voter stupidity and economic ignorance.
The FISC ruling stated the noncompliant (read illegal) 702 searches had been occurring since 2012 and... was the subject of an interagency memorandum of understanding to which the FISC was not informed of this practice until 2016.
Per the WSJ (Dec 2012)... Top U.S. intelligence officials gathered in the White House Situation Room in March to debate a controversial proposal. Counterterrorism officials wanted to create a government dragnet, sweeping up millions of records about U.S. citizens—even people suspected of no crime.https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014241...3040640006
(05-03-2019, 02:04 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: How much of this do y'all think is Mueller covering his own azz regarding the wider Russian nuke/CF ordeal?  In other words, was Mueller pushed to "investigate" Trump because he had a vested interest in keeping this side show circus alive?   i.e. keep some heat off him as well since he was compromised?  I mean I doubt he was picked randomly or merely because he was simply a good lawyer
I know Rep. Louie Gohmert has accused Muller of using the Trump investigation to clean up the Uranium On deal. I don't know if that's true. It could be true.
There is also the thought Mueller's real directive was to clean up the bread crumbs left by the FBI/DOJ spying operation and produce convictions that can be used to tangibly show something illegal happened. I think that is more plausible.
The issue that has rarely been discussed is the same FBI agents and lawyers and staff investigating Trump in 2016 were transferred to the Mueller team in 2017. Those 40 agents and staff and 20 lawyers spent three years trying to remove Trump and nullify the election results for purely political motives. Did they know and just went along with the scheme or were they unaware? Are we supposed to believe a team of 60 agents and staff and lawyers, all intelligent and experienced, didn't know the investigation was political BS from the get go? What does a team of 60 law enforcement officers working on a fabricated investigation for three years reveal about the integrity of the FBI as an institution?
Then, I think how incredibly close the FBI/DOJ, Obama, HRC, etc got to covering this up, all of it... 100%. And then I wonder about past investigations and conclusions... 9/11, Boston Marathon bombing, San Bernardino, Pulse Nightclub, Parkland FL, Mandalay Bay, etc etc etc. Maybe it's just me who thinks if Trump doesn't win, none of this gets exposed and anyone proffering this actually occurred would have been labeled a conspiracy nut, insane and mercilessly mocked and shunned.
(05-28-2019, 06:43 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: The FISC ruling stated the noncompliant (read illegal) 702 searches had been occurring since 2012 and... was the subject of an interagency memorandum of understanding to which the FISC was not informed of this practice until 2016.
Per the WSJ (Dec 2012)... Top U.S. intelligence officials gathered in the White House Situation Room in March to debate a controversial proposal. Counterterrorism officials wanted to create a government dragnet, sweeping up millions of records about U.S. citizens—even people suspected of no crime.https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014241...3040640006