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Lindsay Graham met with the press today. A couple things of note.
1. The press was not concerned at all with collusion rather the obstruction case. They want to know about the oddly written non-exoneration. Graham tried to explain this was not a political "not guilty" rather there was not evidence to prove it and prosecution does not exonerate.  Not good enough
2. Made the case "how did we get to this investigation and the shadiness of spying on Trump". Graham is hoping to drum up support for some sort of investigation to Clinton, Steele and DOJ/FBI. Did not appear to be a lot of interest from the media.
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(03-25-2019, 10:25 AM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: Lindsay Graham met with the press today. A couple things of note.
1. The press was not concerned at all with collusion rather the obstruction case. They want to know about the oddly written non-exoneration. Graham tried to explain this was not a political "not guilty" rather there was not evidence to prove it and prosecution does not exonerate.  Not good enough
2. Made the case "how did we get to this investigation and the shadiness of spying on Trump". Graham is hoping to drum up support for some sort of investigation to Clinton, Steele and DOJ/FBI. Did not appear to be a lot of interest from the media.
That is of no surprise. Republicans have to stick together on this.  This is big opportunity for the next election in terms of public opinion.
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(03-25-2019, 10:25 AM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: Lindsay Graham met with the press today. A couple things of note.
1. The press was not concerned at all with collusion rather the obstruction case. They want to know about the oddly written non-exoneration. Graham tried to explain this was not a political "not guilty" rather there was not evidence to prove it and prosecution does not exonerate.  Not good enough
2. Made the case "how did we get to this investigation and the shadiness of spying on Trump". Graham is hoping to drum up support for some sort of investigation to Clinton, Steele and DOJ/FBI. Did not appear to be a lot of interest from the media.
Graham lost me when he said the independent investigation of Trump/collusion was justified.
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(03-25-2019, 10:36 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:25 AM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: Lindsay Graham met with the press today. A couple things of note.
1. The press was not concerned at all with collusion rather the obstruction case. They want to know about the oddly written non-exoneration. Graham tried to explain this was not a political "not guilty" rather there was not evidence to prove it and prosecution does not exonerate.  Not good enough
2. Made the case "how did we get to this investigation and the shadiness of spying on Trump". Graham is hoping to drum up support for some sort of investigation to Clinton, Steele and DOJ/FBI. Did not appear to be a lot of interest from the media.
Graham lost me when he said the independent investigation of Trump/collusion was justified.
That's to let the folks in D.C. know he's still one of them.
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(03-25-2019, 10:25 AM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: Made the case "how did we get to this investigation and the shadiness of spying on Trump". Graham is hoping to drum up support for some sort of investigation to Clinton, Steele and DOJ/FBI. Did not appear to be a lot of interest from the media.
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(03-25-2019, 10:37 AM)lrrps21 Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:36 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:25 AM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: Lindsay Graham met with the press today. A couple things of note.
1. The press was not concerned at all with collusion rather the obstruction case. They want to know about the oddly written non-exoneration. Graham tried to explain this was not a political "not guilty" rather there was not evidence to prove it and prosecution does not exonerate.  Not good enough
2. Made the case "how did we get to this investigation and the shadiness of spying on Trump". Graham is hoping to drum up support for some sort of investigation to Clinton, Steele and DOJ/FBI. Did not appear to be a lot of interest from the media.
Graham lost me when he said the independent investigation of Trump/collusion was justified.
That's to let the folks in D.C. know he's still one of them. See I had no problem with that.  I wanted to know if our President did something wrong to get elected. I welcomed the investigation. I also welcomed the investigation into how this was also started by the very very shady Obama Adm. That is what I want as I feel this whole thing started by an illegal spy game on a political opponent from a Socialist.Â
I felt this from day one and if we could we could go back to the old NH and Ala's version of the NH you would see it. The issue I ran into was the resident libs of the old NH wanted only a investigation into Trump and not into FISA and McCabe. Something very common for liberal Socialist.
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(03-25-2019, 10:46 AM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:37 AM)lrrps21 Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:36 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:25 AM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: Lindsay Graham met with the press today. A couple things of note.
1. The press was not concerned at all with collusion rather the obstruction case. They want to know about the oddly written non-exoneration. Graham tried to explain this was not a political "not guilty" rather there was not evidence to prove it and prosecution does not exonerate.  Not good enough
2. Made the case "how did we get to this investigation and the shadiness of spying on Trump". Graham is hoping to drum up support for some sort of investigation to Clinton, Steele and DOJ/FBI. Did not appear to be a lot of interest from the media.
Graham lost me when he said the independent investigation of Trump/collusion was justified.
That's to let the folks in D.C. know he's still one of them. See I had no problem with that.  I wanted to know if our President did something wrong to get elected. I welcomed the investigation. I also welcomed the investigation into how this was also started by the very very shady Obama Adm. That is what I want as I feel this whole thing started by an illegal spy game on a political opponent from a Socialist.Â
I felt this from day one and if we could we could go back to the old NH and Ala's version of the NH you would see it. The issue I ran into was the resident libs of the old NH wanted only a investigation into Trump and not into FISA and McCabe. Something very common for liberal Socialist.
Full agreement Soup. Â I wanted everything investigated. Â So far, only Trump has been and 22 months show us they have nothing credible to show collusion, and the only indictments of any real consequence were of bad people he chose to help with the campaign that did stuff that was pre-campaign. Â I'm not impressed.
Now, let's investigate the rest. Â Let's bring ALL the TRUTH to bear here.
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(03-25-2019, 10:46 AM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:37 AM)lrrps21 Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:36 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:25 AM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: Lindsay Graham met with the press today. A couple things of note.
1. The press was not concerned at all with collusion rather the obstruction case. They want to know about the oddly written non-exoneration. Graham tried to explain this was not a political "not guilty" rather there was not evidence to prove it and prosecution does not exonerate.  Not good enough
2. Made the case "how did we get to this investigation and the shadiness of spying on Trump". Graham is hoping to drum up support for some sort of investigation to Clinton, Steele and DOJ/FBI. Did not appear to be a lot of interest from the media.
Graham lost me when he said the independent investigation of Trump/collusion was justified.
That's to let the folks in D.C. know he's still one of them. See I had no problem with that.  I wanted to know if our President did something wrong to get elected. I welcomed the investigation. I also welcomed the investigation into how this was also started by the very very shady Obama Adm. That is what I want as I feel this whole thing started by an illegal spy game on a political opponent from a Socialist.Â
I felt this from day one and if we could we could go back to the old NH and Ala's version of the NH you would see it. The issue I ran into was the resident libs of the old NH wanted only a investigation into Trump and not into FISA and McCabe. Something very common for liberal Socialist.
The problem with that is the allegation was completely groundless and the people who engineered it KNEW it was groundless and if we are going to undermine a President and hobble him with these types of investigations with no legitimate grounds for doing so then you are setting a dangerous precedent. The Obama Administration was involved in several situations with clear evidence of wrongdoing and there was not one independent prosecutor appointed. This was a total political hit job on Trump that did not in the least warrant this type of investigation.
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(03-25-2019, 10:56 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:46 AM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:37 AM)lrrps21 Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:36 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:25 AM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: Lindsay Graham met with the press today. A couple things of note.
1. The press was not concerned at all with collusion rather the obstruction case. They want to know about the oddly written non-exoneration. Graham tried to explain this was not a political "not guilty" rather there was not evidence to prove it and prosecution does not exonerate.  Not good enough
2. Made the case "how did we get to this investigation and the shadiness of spying on Trump". Graham is hoping to drum up support for some sort of investigation to Clinton, Steele and DOJ/FBI. Did not appear to be a lot of interest from the media.
Graham lost me when he said the independent investigation of Trump/collusion was justified.
That's to let the folks in D.C. know he's still one of them. See I had no problem with that.  I wanted to know if our President did something wrong to get elected. I welcomed the investigation. I also welcomed the investigation into how this was also started by the very very shady Obama Adm. That is what I want as I feel this whole thing started by an illegal spy game on a political opponent from a Socialist.Â
I felt this from day one and if we could we could go back to the old NH and Ala's version of the NH you would see it. The issue I ran into was the resident libs of the old NH wanted only a investigation into Trump and not into FISA and McCabe. Something very common for liberal Socialist.
The problem with that is the allegation was completely groundless and the people who engineered it KNEW it was groundless and if we are going to undermine a President and hobble him with these types of investigations with no legitimate grounds for doing so then you are setting a dangerous precedent. The Obama Administration was involved in several situations with clear evidence of wrongdoing and there was not one independent prosecutor appointed. This was a total political hit job on Trump that did not in the least warrant this type of investigation. No we did not know this from the start. When we started to hear of this we did not know this was groundless (we may have felt this way but we did not know this). The people in DC were not aware of this either. Â
With that said once it started to unfold they should have either stopped it but to their credit they did start an investigation as to the questions surrounding the players (again the other investigation started due to the pubs). I admit if the dems were in charge then we would hear nothing bad about McCabe and Rod etc.
Oddly because of the Dem insistence on this investiation it started to expose "The Swamp"Â Â Now I want them to take it back to the former POTUS the Sociialist.
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(03-25-2019, 11:13 AM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:56 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:46 AM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:37 AM)lrrps21 Wrote: (03-25-2019, 10:36 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: Graham lost me when he said the independent investigation of Trump/collusion was justified.
That's to let the folks in D.C. know he's still one of them. See I had no problem with that.  I wanted to know if our President did something wrong to get elected. I welcomed the investigation. I also welcomed the investigation into how this was also started by the very very shady Obama Adm. That is what I want as I feel this whole thing started by an illegal spy game on a political opponent from a Socialist.Â
I felt this from day one and if we could we could go back to the old NH and Ala's version of the NH you would see it. The issue I ran into was the resident libs of the old NH wanted only a investigation into Trump and not into FISA and McCabe. Something very common for liberal Socialist.
The problem with that is the allegation was completely groundless and the people who engineered it KNEW it was groundless and if we are going to undermine a President and hobble him with these types of investigations with no legitimate grounds for doing so then you are setting a dangerous precedent. The Obama Administration was involved in several situations with clear evidence of wrongdoing and there was not one independent prosecutor appointed. This was a total political hit job on Trump that did not in the least warrant this type of investigation. No we did not know this from the start. When we started to hear of this we did not know this was groundless (we may have felt this way but we did not know this). The people in DC were not aware of this either. Â
With that said once it started to unfold they should have either stopped it but to their credit they did start an investigation as to the questions surrounding the players (again the other investigation started due to the pubs). I admit if the dems were in charge then we would hear nothing bad about McCabe and Rod etc.
Oddly because of the Dem insistence on this investiation it started to expose "The Swamp"Â Â Now I want them to take it back to the former POTUS the Sociialist.
Once again, what you are doing is saying a special prosecutor should be appointed whenever Democrats make an allegation. The way it should ideally work is Congress should have done a reasonable investigation to either end it or determine there were credible allegations. Then if the allegations were credible, a special counsel could have been appointed. What happened here should have never happened and was nothing but a coup attempt by people in the government with obvious loyalties to Obama and Hillary Clinton.
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The Left got the investigation with their handpicked Special Prosecutor and team of 19 lawyers and 40 FBI agents... which included the same FBI agents and DOJ staff who were part of the group involved in allowing 3rd party contractors to remove raw FISA data from the FBI and fabricating the FISA warrant.
And now, Lindsay Graham starts the public discussion of investigations into the FBI/DOJ... won't be waiting by the phone. I'm confident Mueller and his team of cleaners have sufficiently cleaned up the trail of debris left by FBI, DOJ, DNC, and HRC.
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HT what I disagree with you is I feel others had no idea how this was rigged. Yes some may have been but I have no proof of that. Outside of that I feel with the information given by the fbi/doj they had to look into this. I maybe foolish here but I do not believe the politicans knew how corrupt the system was against Trump which was why they wanted the investigation.
Again shortly into it, it became clear the upper tier of the fbi was dirty and the doj. I wish it would have been stopped sooner and I believe people like Schiff should be held accountable.
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(03-25-2019, 02:29 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: The Left got the investigation with their handpicked Special Prosecutor and team of 19 lawyers and 40 FBI agents... which included the same FBI agents and DOJ staff who were part of the group involved in allowing 3rd party contractors to remove raw FISA data from the FBI and fabricating the FISA warrant.
And now, Lindsay Graham starts the public discussion of investigations into the FBI/DOJ... won't be waiting by the phone. I'm confident Mueller and his team of cleaners have sufficiently cleaned up the trail of debris left by FBI, DOJ, DNC, and HRC.
They did however I believe and maybe foolishly so, but I believe DC had no idea how dirty the upper tiers of the fbi /doj and the Obama Adm is/was.  Â
Remember the dems were still thinking Comey rigged the election against Hillary.
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