Making America Great Again

[cincydawg]

The vast majority of Congress is reelected each cycle. The incumbents have a huge built in advantage. The major parties have a large advantage also, money, if they are viewed as real possibilities for a flip.

My Congressman runs unopposed every time, completely. Nobody sees a chance of beating him. My former Congressman gets challenged, and last time was in for a fight being the off year, but he won against a pretty credible Democrat.

I don't see how Libertarians can come up with the money and name recognition to play this game.

[ScarletHayes]

Re:  the Libertarian angle, even if you vote for/elect a Libertarian for president, you still have a congress full of recklessly irresponsible clowns.  If the Libertarian Party was SERIOUS (how many times have I ranted about that now?), they would try to go after 20--30 House seats and at least 5 senate seats.  Embed themselves in govt and be the biggest pain in the azz to the 2 party spending spree.  

So if ya want to start somewhere, start there.  These token presidential campaigns are simply PR stunts that go nowhere.  If the powers that be (is there even such a thing? the guy in the Darth Vader costume?) in that party actually, truly want to "make a difference,"  then they should target some congressional and senate seats first.  Get elected, and throw a massive wrench into that spending gear box.

You also need to accept that the Libertarian Party is nothing but a bunch of brain dead stoners who want to keep the border open.  It is NOT an option.

The 2 reasons I don't vote Libertarian for president:  The border and abortion.  1.  The border.  How do you have a nation without a functional border?  Pretty elementary stuff.  2.  Abortion.  LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.  Again, pretty elementary stuff.

[Hightop77]

Re:  the Libertarian angle, even if you vote for/elect a Libertarian for president, you still have a congress full of recklessly irresponsible clowns.  If the Libertarian Party was SERIOUS (how many times have I ranted about that now?), they would try to go after 20--30 House seats and at least 5 senate seats.  Embed themselves in govt and be the biggest pain in the azz to the 2 party spending spree.  

So if ya want to start somewhere, start there.  These token presidential campaigns are simply PR stunts that go nowhere.  If the powers that be (is there even such a thing? the guy in the Darth Vader costume?) in that party actually, truly want to "make a difference,"  then they should target some congressional and senate seats first.  Get elected, and throw a massive wrench into that spending gear box.

You also need to accept that the Libertarian Party is nothing but a bunch of brain dead stoners who want to keep the border open.  It is NOT an option.

The 2 reasons I don't vote Libertarian for president:  The border and abortion.  1.  The border.  How do you have a nation without a functional border?  Pretty elementary stuff.  2.  Abortion.  LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.  Again, pretty elementary stuff.

They are total frauds.  The fools who vote for them say they stand for smaller government but they never talk about their plan to get rid of the biggest government spending items, entitlements.  90% of their rhetoric is about legalizing drugs.  Obviously young morons think that sounds great.   I remember when Ron Paul was running with good support from college age people and some nitwits were claiming how young people were embracing smaller government.  The reality is they only supported Paul because they wanted legalized drugs.  LOL

[cincydawg]

It's not as if Republicans have done much about abortion and the border either. They talk a good game, just as Democrats talk about free this and free that. Both parties TALK about stuff, but when it comes to getting stuff done, well ...

Not much.

[Hightop77]

It's not as if Republicans have done much about abortion and the border either.  They talk a good game, just as Democrats talk about free this and free that.  Both parties TALK about stuff, but when it comes to getting stuff done, well ...

Not much.

Republicans pass laws restricting abortions all the time and most get shot down by judges.

[zigbee]

Dirty little secret all of those holding office in DC is it canâ€t be repaid.  Itâ€s way too big from military and social programs and wars.  They know this and the way forward is just business as usual and continue to ride this horse they are on till who knows how it ends.  It will end though.  Who knows how or when

[ScarletHayes]

I think Libertarians would respect states' rights to enforce their own drug laws.  I mean let's face it, weed isn't gonna hurt anyone.  If it were made legal nation wide we'd still all get up the next morning without any noticeable difference.  

As for federal spending, I think they would be very effective.  That's one of the main reasons they would be elected.  I think they could be a force for pumping the brakes on this thing.  They would rant against omnibus bills and push for balanced budgets.  I think they would be very effective.  They wouldn't be cowered into fear like the GOP is.

[ScarletHayes]

It's not as if Republicans have done much about abortion and the border either.  They talk a good game, just as Democrats talk about free this and free that.  Both parties TALK about stuff, but when it comes to getting stuff done, well ...

Not much.

Re:  the border.  The GOP uses it as a wedge issue to win elections (just like Obama Care).  But then when there's a chance to actually do something about it?  Lol.  They're frauds.  A large chunk of the GOP desperately wants that border WIDE OPEN

[ScarletHayes]

Dirty little secret all of those holding office in DC is it canâ€t be repaid.  Itâ€s way too big from military and social programs and wars.  They know this and the way forward is just business as usual and continue to ride this horse they are on till who knows how it ends.  It will end though.  Who knows how or when

It is too big to technically repay in full, but it can be reduced to the point where it isn't a giant gorilla on our nations' back.  This just isn't about gobbling up our annual tax revenues, this also involves the stability/value of the dollar, national security, etc...   But I'm preaching to the choir here.   You all know this.

[Hightop77]

I think Libertarians would respect states' rights to enforce their own drug laws.  I mean let's face it, weed isn't gonna hurt anyone.

I will save that argument for another day but it isn't true at all.  There is actually substantial damage both long and short term and legalization would increase usage drastically.

[ScarletHayes]

I think Libertarians would respect states' rights to enforce their own drug laws.  I mean let's face it, weed isn't gonna hurt anyone.

I will save that argument for another day but it isn't true at all.  There is actually substantial damage both long and short term and legalization would increase usage drastically.

Alcohol is FAAAAAAARRRRRRR worse, and it's legal.  I have yet to see weed start anything resembling a bar brawl.

[Soupcity Kid]

Pubs and Dems are he same and are part of the swamp.  If libertarians had great ideas they would be a viable 3rd party.

Here is my question why was this the largest deficit????  It is my understanding we have record amounts of revenue coming in due to the record amount of people working?   Add that to the mass reduction in forces in the middle east and I figured we would be doing ok.

Does anyone know where the spending increased??  Is this increase just increased military spending???

[Hightop77]

I think Libertarians would respect states' rights to enforce their own drug laws.  I mean let's face it, weed isn't gonna hurt anyone.

I will save that argument for another day but it isn't true at all.  There is actually substantial damage both long and short term and legalization would increase usage drastically.

Alcohol is FAAAAAAARRRRRRR worse, and it's legal.  I have yet to see weed start anything resembling a bar brawl.

Nope.  Not even remotely as damaging.

[cincydawg]

Spending increased of course and revenue fell.

"Receipts dipped less than 1 percent to $1.3 trillion in the October-February period from the previous year, while spending accelerated 9 percent to $1.8 trillion."

From OP cite.

[cincydawg]

It's always the same for many, Ds blame Rs, and Rs blame Ds, and neither does anything about the real problem. It's just the blame game.