Chivalry is dead...

[P1tchblack]

Still waiting on P1tch to tell us how he would have handled it.   Should be good.

Do you have a daughter?

What in the hell does that have to do with my question other than you can't answer at all.   In essence you just condemned yourself to not knowing what to do.  Thanks for the confirmation.  Now, carry on with your silly and REALLY stupid support of violent people who won't comply with orders from the authorities.

You didn't ask a question.


I didn't condemn myself to anything. I'm hoping that by relating to something closer to home, most true men, who give cops way too much freedom to abuse innocent people, would recognize how wrong it is for a man to slam a teenager to the ground like that. If that's the best solution that cops can come up with, for handling teenage girls, they should be shut down all together.

Would you ever slam your daughter to the ground like that?

[P1tchblack]

Based on what?  The video starts with a violent suspect wrestling with a cop and then being apprehended.

Based on the fact that, in the United States we are innocent until proven guilty.

She wasn't innocent. She is a mentally unstable and violent thug who just committed a violent assault.

Wrong. She was 100% innocent until it's proven that she is guilty.

[BoyGenius]

Considering the title of the thread...

[zigbee]

Still waiting on P1tch to tell us how he would have handled it.   Should be good.

Do you have a daughter?

What in the hell does that have to do with my question other than you can't answer at all.   In essence you just condemned yourself to not knowing what to do.  Thanks for the confirmation.  Now, carry on with your silly and REALLY stupid support of violent people who won't comply with orders from the authorities.

You didn't ask a question.


I didn't condemn myself to anything. I'm hoping that by relating to something closer to home, most true men would recognize how wrong it is for a man to slam a teenager to the ground like that. If that's the best solution that cops can come up with, for handling teenage girls, they should be shut down all together.

Then you missed the question I DID ask you prior to this page.  HOW would you have subdued this violent young woman?  Me having a daughter has ZERO to do with this situation and the fact the girl would not comply.  Shut down?  LOL...sure, lets have anarchy.

Lets just review your stand for a moment:  this is akin to a man robbing a bank with a gun.  He holds up the bank, leaves and is confronted by authorities yet if he fires at the police they cannot respond because ....get ready...THE ROBBER IS INNOCENT!!!  Let him go!!!  Shut it down!   The girl was violent and would not comply so just LET IT GO. Shut it down.  My God, you really are looking dumb here.

[P1tchblack]

Saying that the girl was innocent at the time she was slammed to the ground by a (cough) man is a fact.

So since you know it's a "fact" that the girl is "innocent", tell us exactly what happened it the moments before the video started.  And then back it up with what evidence you have showing that your narrative is "fact".

I don't have to know what happened in the moments leading up to the fight to know that she was innocent at the time the cops slammed her to the ground.

[Hightop77]

Based on what?  The video starts with a violent suspect wrestling with a cop and then being apprehended.

Based on the fact that, in the United States we are innocent until proven guilty.

She wasn't innocent. She is a mentally unstable and violent thug who just committed a violent assault.

Wrong. She was 100% innocent until it's proven that she is guilty.

More trolling.  No one convicted her.  She fought arrest and was subdued.  You keep implying the arrest was equal to conviction.  That is just trolling.

[va1bucksfan1]

Wrong. She was 100% innocent until it's proven that she is guilty.

Well then so is the cop, hypocrite.

I guess when you're an azzhat cop hater, you can just conveniently change the rules like that to suit your preferred narrative.

[BoyGenius]

Based on what?  The video starts with a violent suspect wrestling with a cop and then being apprehended.

Based on the fact that, in the United States we are innocent until proven guilty.

She wasn't innocent. She is a mentally unstable and violent thug who just committed a violent assault.

Wrong. She was 100% innocent until it's proven that she is guilty.

"Not innocent" does not mean she's guilty. She was being arrested for a violent assault, therefore she wasn't innocent. There was indisputable proof that warranted her arrest. She can challenge the arrest in a court of law. FYI... verdicts are returned "GUILTY" or "NOT GUILTY"... not "GUILTY" or "INNOCENT".

[va1bucksfan1]

I don't have to know what happened in the moments leading up to the fight to know that she was innocent at the time the cops slammed her to the ground.

You most certainly do need to know exactly what happened in the moments leading up to the body slam to know if she was guilty or innocent of doing something to provoke that physical response by the cop.

But you "just know", don't you Mr. Omniscient Cop Hater?

[P1tchblack]

Still waiting on P1tch to tell us how he would have handled it.   Should be good.

Do you have a daughter?

What in the hell does that have to do with my question other than you can't answer at all.   In essence you just condemned yourself to not knowing what to do.  Thanks for the confirmation.  Now, carry on with your silly and REALLY stupid support of violent people who won't comply with orders from the authorities.

You didn't ask a question.


I didn't condemn myself to anything. I'm hoping that by relating to something closer to home, most true men would recognize how wrong it is for a man to slam a teenager to the ground like that. If that's the best solution that cops can come up with, for handling teenage girls, they should be shut down all together.

Then you missed the question I DID ask you prior to this page.  HOW would you have subdued this violent young woman?  Me having a daughter has ZERO to do with this situation and the fact the girl would not comply.  Shut down?  LOL...sure, lets have anarchy.

Lets just review your stand for a moment:  this is akin to a man robbing a bank with a gun.  He holds up the bank, leaves and is confronted by authorities yet if he fires at the police they cannot respond because ....get ready...THE ROBBER IS INNOCENT!!!  Let him go!!!  Shut it down!   The girl was violent and would not comply so just LET IT GO. Shut it down.  My God, you really are looking dumb here.

You may not like it, but every single citizen is innocent until proven guilty. Maybe you AND hightop77 are living in the wrong country.  Again, if an adult male can't figure out a way to subdue/take to the ground a teenage girl, without body slamming her, he needs to find a new job.

[BoyGenius]

Still waiting on P1tch to tell us how he would have handled it.   Should be good.

Do you have a daughter?

Gotta love liberal debate tactics... can't win with facts, switch to the emotional aspect.
I have a daughter... so what? How is the fact I have a daughter, actually two, relevant to this discussion?

BUMP...
Real men raise daughters not to violently attack innocent students.
Real men teach their daughters to be good citizens and not violent thugs.
Real men instill confidence in their daughters so they don't become insecure violent thugs.

[Hightop77]

Do you have a daughter?

What in the hell does that have to do with my question other than you can't answer at all.   In essence you just condemned yourself to not knowing what to do.  Thanks for the confirmation.  Now, carry on with your silly and REALLY stupid support of violent people who won't comply with orders from the authorities.

You didn't ask a question.


I didn't condemn myself to anything. I'm hoping that by relating to something closer to home, most true men would recognize how wrong it is for a man to slam a teenager to the ground like that. If that's the best solution that cops can come up with, for handling teenage girls, they should be shut down all together.

Then you missed the question I DID ask you prior to this page.  HOW would you have subdued this violent young woman?  Me having a daughter has ZERO to do with this situation and the fact the girl would not comply.  Shut down?  LOL...sure, lets have anarchy.

Lets just review your stand for a moment:  this is akin to a man robbing a bank with a gun.  He holds up the bank, leaves and is confronted by authorities yet if he fires at the police they cannot respond because ....get ready...THE ROBBER IS INNOCENT!!!  Let him go!!!  Shut it down!   The girl was violent and would not comply so just LET IT GO. Shut it down.  My God, you really are looking dumb here.

You may not like it, but every single citizen is innocent until proven guilty. Maybe you AND hightop77 are living in the wrong country.  Again, if an adult male can't figure out a way to subdue/take to the ground a teenage girl, without body slamming her, he needs to find a new job.

As usual you are demanding police literally go out of their way to keep from being physical with a violent suspect resisting arrest and you place zero responsibility on the violent suspect.  You are trolling dude.

[P1tchblack]

Based on what?  The video starts with a violent suspect wrestling with a cop and then being apprehended.

Based on the fact that, in the United States we are innocent until proven guilty.

She wasn't innocent. She is a mentally unstable and violent thug who just committed a violent assault.

Wrong. She was 100% innocent until it's proven that she is guilty.

"Not innocent" does not mean she's guilty. She was being arrested for a violent assault, therefore she wasn't innocent.

100% wrong.  You need a civics refresher course. Being arrested and being innocent or guilty are completely unrelated.

There was indisputable proof that warranted her arrest.

being arrested only means that you are suspected of committing a crime. It means absolutely nothing beyond that.

She can challenge the arrest in a court of law. FYI... verdicts are returned "GUILTY" or "NOT GUILTY"... not "GUILTY" or "INNOCENT".

"Innocent until proven guilty."

[P1tchblack]

What in the hell does that have to do with my question other than you can't answer at all.   In essence you just condemned yourself to not knowing what to do.  Thanks for the confirmation.  Now, carry on with your silly and REALLY stupid support of violent people who won't comply with orders from the authorities.

You didn't ask a question.


I didn't condemn myself to anything. I'm hoping that by relating to something closer to home, most true men would recognize how wrong it is for a man to slam a teenager to the ground like that. If that's the best solution that cops can come up with, for handling teenage girls, they should be shut down all together.

Then you missed the question I DID ask you prior to this page.  HOW would you have subdued this violent young woman?  Me having a daughter has ZERO to do with this situation and the fact the girl would not comply.  Shut down?  LOL...sure, lets have anarchy.

Lets just review your stand for a moment:  this is akin to a man robbing a bank with a gun.  He holds up the bank, leaves and is confronted by authorities yet if he fires at the police they cannot respond because ....get ready...THE ROBBER IS INNOCENT!!!  Let him go!!!  Shut it down!   The girl was violent and would not comply so just LET IT GO. Shut it down.  My God, you really are looking dumb here.

You may not like it, but every single citizen is innocent until proven guilty. Maybe you AND hightop77 are living in the wrong country.  Again, if an adult male can't figure out a way to subdue/take to the ground a teenage girl, without body slamming her, he needs to find a new job.

As usual you are demanding police literally go out of their way to keep from being physical with a violent suspect resisting arrest and you place zero responsibility on the violent suspect.  You are trolling dude.

I am demanding that Police use reasonable force. An adult male body slamming a teenage girl on a cement sidewalk is not reasonable Force.

[zigbee]

Do you have a daughter?

What in the hell does that have to do with my question other than you can't answer at all.   In essence you just condemned yourself to not knowing what to do.  Thanks for the confirmation.  Now, carry on with your silly and REALLY stupid support of violent people who won't comply with orders from the authorities.

You didn't ask a question.


I didn't condemn myself to anything. I'm hoping that by relating to something closer to home, most true men would recognize how wrong it is for a man to slam a teenager to the ground like that. If that's the best solution that cops can come up with, for handling teenage girls, they should be shut down all together.

Then you missed the question I DID ask you prior to this page.  HOW would you have subdued this violent young woman?  Me having a daughter has ZERO to do with this situation and the fact the girl would not comply.  Shut down?  LOL...sure, lets have anarchy.

Lets just review your stand for a moment:  this is akin to a man robbing a bank with a gun.  He holds up the bank, leaves and is confronted by authorities yet if he fires at the police they cannot respond because ....get ready...THE ROBBER IS INNOCENT!!!  Let him go!!!  Shut it down!   The girl was violent and would not comply so just LET IT GO. Shut it down.  My God, you really are looking dumb here.

You may not like it, but every single citizen is innocent until proven guilty. Maybe you AND hightop77 are living in the wrong country.  Again, if an adult male can't figure out a way to subdue/take to the ground a teenage girl, without body slamming her, he needs to find a new job.

Has ZERO to do with your stupid argument.  The NOT GUILTY is in court NOT at time of the arrest.  I'm living in the right country and I UNDERSTAND the law and branches of gov't.  You do not.

AGAIN, and you still have not answered because you can't, HOW would you have handled this?