Did Jesus exist before he was in Mary's womb?

[P1tchblack]

How do you figure?

They believe in the Preexistence, AND they believe that Jesus was the God of the OT. Not "or"

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

If you're Christian you believe that Jesus existed as a spirit before having a body on Earth. Or, if you were a Mormon, you believe that not only Jesus existed as a spirit, but we all existed as a spirit before being given a body.

[Brutus Buckeye]

How do you figure?

They believe in the Preexistence, AND they believe that Jesus was the God of the OT. Not "or"

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

If you're Christian you believe that Jesus existed as a spirit before having a body on Earth. Or, if you were a Mormon, you believe that not only Jesus existed as a spirit, but we all existed as a spirit before being given a body.

This point supports my "and" not your "or." 

The Mormon take is that Jesus is Jehovah, the God of the OT, the Creator of the Earth, the God that we pray to, who came into mortality in order to set the example of how to live a Godly existence as a mortal, who died for our sins and was resurrected, etc. 

The Heavenly Father, Michael, is the father of our spirits (Jesus being a God, not a spirit child of Father Micheal). He was the God of the NT that Jesus prayed to while He was here in mortality. The Virgin Mary was not a Spirit Child but a Heavenly Mother. The most righteous Goddess wife of our Heavenly Father, Father Michael, who came into mortality in order to be the mortal Mother of Christ on Earth.

[TcSoup]

Its all a fraud and when the Aliens land you have all been warned.

[cincydawg]

I find the "Immaculate Conception" to be perhaps the least understood tradition/belief in Catholicism, mostly because folks presume they know what it means.

Does the lineage laid out in Matthew refer to that of Joseph? That is my recollection, and it always struck me as odd. Well, not always.