Bid to end DACA now in front of Supreme Court

[lrrps21]

Trump is RIGHT to stop the insanity of allowing people to smuggle in children, burden our social programs, and scam the system.  GEEEEEEEEEEEZUS, what other nation on the planet allows this?   ANYONE covered under this dumbass Obama fiat HAS TO NOW file for citizenship and become a legal citizen and no more will be allowed to enter this way.  How damn hard is it to understand all this?  WOW.

Explaining this to p!tch is like explaining how to solve differential equation questions to a sociology major; it's a waste of time.

[P1tchblack]

Trump is RIGHT to stop the insanity of allowing people to smuggle in children, burden our social programs, and scam the system.  GEEEEEEEEEEEZUS, what other nation on the planet allows this?   ANYONE covered under this dumbass Obama fiat HAS TO NOW file for citizenship and become a legal citizen and no more will be allowed to enter this way.  How damn hard is it to understand all this?  WOW.

 Of course he's right and DACA already stopped it. Only those here in 2007 or sooner qualify.

What other nation allows this?  I don't know, but that's what makes the US the US.  We take in people trying to escape terrible, war-torn conditions and, as every poll I found showed, Americans do not want to send the DACA qualifying kids back.  And, as we saw during the last election, one topic (Muslim terrorism) can be a game changer.  So Trump better hope that not on DACA qualifiying kid is deported, if SCOTUS allows Trump to revoke it, because that is ALL we'll see on the news for days.

[zigbee]

Trump is RIGHT to stop the insanity of allowing people to smuggle in children, burden our social programs, and scam the system.  GEEEEEEEEEEEZUS, what other nation on the planet allows this?   ANYONE covered under this dumbass Obama fiat HAS TO NOW file for citizenship and become a legal citizen and no more will be allowed to enter this way.  How damn hard is it to understand all this?  WOW.

 Of course he's right and DACA already stopped it. Only those here in 2007 or sooner qualify.

What other nation allows this?  I don't know, but that's what makes the US the US.  We take in people trying to escape terrible, war-torn conditions and, as every poll I found showed, Americans do not want to send the DACA qualifying kids back.  And, as we saw during the last election, one topic (Muslim terrorism) can be a game changer.  So Trump better hope that not on DACA qualifiying kid is deported, if SCOTUS allows Trump to revoke it, because that is ALL we'll see on the news for days.

You need to read the news more.   Nations like France and Canada are stopping the stupidity of taking in people.  Let the war torn areas of the world figure it out for themselves and quit asking the US taxpayer to foot the bill for the stupidity of others.  Here under DACA?   FILE to become legal citizen.   Not hard to comprehend FOR MOST people.  The US is NOT the land for refugees that cause crime, spend tax dollars, etc.   It has to end.

[P1tchblack]

Trump is RIGHT to stop the insanity of allowing people to smuggle in children, burden our social programs, and scam the system.  GEEEEEEEEEEEZUS, what other nation on the planet allows this?   ANYONE covered under this dumbass Obama fiat HAS TO NOW file for citizenship and become a legal citizen and no more will be allowed to enter this way.  How damn hard is it to understand all this?  WOW.

 Of course he's right and DACA already stopped it. Only those here in 2007 or sooner qualify.

What other nation allows this?  I don't know, but that's what makes the US the US.  We take in people trying to escape terrible, war-torn conditions and, as every poll I found showed, Americans do not want to send the DACA qualifying kids back.  And, as we saw during the last election, one topic (Muslim terrorism) can be a game changer.  So Trump better hope that not on DACA qualifiying kid is deported, if SCOTUS allows Trump to revoke it, because that is ALL we'll see on the news for days.

You need to read the news more.   Nations like France and Canada are stopping the stupidity of taking in people.  Let the war torn areas of the world figure it out for themselves and quit asking the US taxpayer to foot the bill for the stupidity of others.  Here under DACA?   FILE to become legal citizen.   Not hard to comprehend FOR MOST people.  The US is NOT the land for refugees that cause crime, spend tax dollars, etc.   It has to end.

I understand your position. I'm not trying to debate the pros and cons of DACA. What I am saying is, based on the clear opinion of Americans, this is a stupid fight on the part of trump. You don't have to undo DACA to implement a permanent solution.

[zigbee]

Trump is RIGHT to stop the insanity of allowing people to smuggle in children, burden our social programs, and scam the system.  GEEEEEEEEEEEZUS, what other nation on the planet allows this?   ANYONE covered under this dumbass Obama fiat HAS TO NOW file for citizenship and become a legal citizen and no more will be allowed to enter this way.  How damn hard is it to understand all this?  WOW.

 Of course he's right and DACA already stopped it. Only those here in 2007 or sooner qualify.

What other nation allows this?  I don't know, but that's what makes the US the US.  We take in people trying to escape terrible, war-torn conditions and, as every poll I found showed, Americans do not want to send the DACA qualifying kids back.  And, as we saw during the last election, one topic (Muslim terrorism) can be a game changer.  So Trump better hope that not on DACA qualifiying kid is deported, if SCOTUS allows Trump to revoke it, because that is ALL we'll see on the news for days.

You need to read the news more.   Nations like France and Canada are stopping the stupidity of taking in people.  Let the war torn areas of the world figure it out for themselves and quit asking the US taxpayer to foot the bill for the stupidity of others.  Here under DACA?   FILE to become legal citizen.   Not hard to comprehend FOR MOST people.  The US is NOT the land for refugees that cause crime, spend tax dollars, etc.   It has to end.

I understand your position. I'm not trying to debate the pros and cons of DACA. What I am saying is, based on the clear opinion of Americans, this is a stupid fight on the part of trump. You don't have to undo DACA to implement a permanent solution.

Sure, and I'm not really convinced over these polls either.
AND you do need to end DACA to stop the kids coming in and not encourage it.   Bring a kid here illegally?  See ya, bye.  We have to be a nation of laws and we have to enforce them and hold people accountable.

[dunefan]

Trump is RIGHT to stop the insanity of allowing people to smuggle in children, burden our social programs, and scam the system.  GEEEEEEEEEEEZUS, what other nation on the planet allows this?   ANYONE covered under this dumbass Obama fiat HAS TO NOW file for citizenship and become a legal citizen and no more will be allowed to enter this way.  How damn hard is it to understand all this?  WOW.

 Of course he's right and DACA already stopped it. Only those here in 2007 or sooner qualify.

What other nation allows this?  I don't know, but that's what makes the US the US.  We take in people trying to escape terrible, war-torn conditions and, as every poll I found showed, Americans do not want to send the DACA qualifying kids back.  And, as we saw during the last election, one topic (Muslim terrorism) can be a game changer.  So Trump better hope that not on DACA qualifiying kid is deported, if SCOTUS allows Trump to revoke it, because that is ALL we'll see on the news for days.

You need to read the news more.   Nations like France and Canada are stopping the stupidity of taking in people.  Let the war torn areas of the world figure it out for themselves and quit asking the US taxpayer to foot the bill for the stupidity of others.  Here under DACA?   FILE to become legal citizen.   Not hard to comprehend FOR MOST people.  The US is NOT the land for refugees that cause crime, spend tax dollars, etc.   It has to end.

I understand your position. I'm not trying to debate the pros and cons of DACA. What I am saying is, based on the clear opinion of Americans, this is a stupid fight on the part of trump. You don't have to undo DACA to implement a permanent solution.

Your "clear opinion of Americans" is BS.  The Socialists only care about keeping these people in the country because they will probably vote socialist.  Every poll is over sampled with socialists and every poll is skewed toward the socialist viewpoint.  The vast majority of these people come here for better jobs.  They use the "war refugee" excuse because we have to take them.  This is a giant scam where the US is getting totally ripped off via entitlements and the socialists are growing there voting ranks with illegals "legally".

[P1tchblack]

Trump is RIGHT to stop the insanity of allowing people to smuggle in children, burden our social programs, and scam the system.  GEEEEEEEEEEEZUS, what other nation on the planet allows this?   ANYONE covered under this dumbass Obama fiat HAS TO NOW file for citizenship and become a legal citizen and no more will be allowed to enter this way.  How damn hard is it to understand all this?  WOW.

 Of course he's right and DACA already stopped it. Only those here in 2007 or sooner qualify.

What other nation allows this?  I don't know, but that's what makes the US the US.  We take in people trying to escape terrible, war-torn conditions and, as every poll I found showed, Americans do not want to send the DACA qualifying kids back.  And, as we saw during the last election, one topic (Muslim terrorism) can be a game changer.  So Trump better hope that not on DACA qualifiying kid is deported, if SCOTUS allows Trump to revoke it, because that is ALL we'll see on the news for days.

You need to read the news more.   Nations like France and Canada are stopping the stupidity of taking in people.  Let the war torn areas of the world figure it out for themselves and quit asking the US taxpayer to foot the bill for the stupidity of others.  Here under DACA?   FILE to become legal citizen.   Not hard to comprehend FOR MOST people.  The US is NOT the land for refugees that cause crime, spend tax dollars, etc.   It has to end.

I understand your position. I'm not trying to debate the pros and cons of DACA. What I am saying is, based on the clear opinion of Americans, this is a stupid fight on the part of trump. You don't have to undo DACA to implement a permanent solution.

Sure, and I'm not really convinced over these polls either.
AND you do need to end DACA to stop the kids coming in and not encourage it.   Bring a kid here illegally?  See ya, bye.  We have to be a nation of laws and we have to enforce them and hold people accountable.

If you don't believe the top polling agencies, which ones would you believe?

DACA  only applies to kids brought here 2007 and earlier.  So, yes, all kids after that do not get the benefit.  Of course, again, this is a fight that really has little to no upside and lots of downside.

[dunefan]

 Of course he's right and DACA already stopped it. Only those here in 2007 or sooner qualify.

What other nation allows this?  I don't know, but that's what makes the US the US.  We take in people trying to escape terrible, war-torn conditions and, as every poll I found showed, Americans do not want to send the DACA qualifying kids back.  And, as we saw during the last election, one topic (Muslim terrorism) can be a game changer.  So Trump better hope that not on DACA qualifiying kid is deported, if SCOTUS allows Trump to revoke it, because that is ALL we'll see on the news for days.

You need to read the news more.   Nations like France and Canada are stopping the stupidity of taking in people.  Let the war torn areas of the world figure it out for themselves and quit asking the US taxpayer to foot the bill for the stupidity of others.  Here under DACA?   FILE to become legal citizen.   Not hard to comprehend FOR MOST people.  The US is NOT the land for refugees that cause crime, spend tax dollars, etc.   It has to end.

I understand your position. I'm not trying to debate the pros and cons of DACA. What I am saying is, based on the clear opinion of Americans, this is a stupid fight on the part of trump. You don't have to undo DACA to implement a permanent solution.

Sure, and I'm not really convinced over these polls either.
AND you do need to end DACA to stop the kids coming in and not encourage it.   Bring a kid here illegally?  See ya, bye.  We have to be a nation of laws and we have to enforce them and hold people accountable.

If you don't believe the top polling agencies, which ones would you believe?

DACA  only applies to kids brought here 2007 and earlier.  So, yes, all kids after that do not get the benefit.  Of course, again, this is a fight that really has little to no upside and lots of downside.

What are you talking about?  It is ALL upside for the socialists via the ballet box.  The socialists want to keep their voters in the country.  The only downside would be if they get deported.

[sparky454]

I pay little or no attention to any polls. Results can be skewed by polling areas or demographics that will give the pollster the results he wants. Hell, I don't even trust the poll results on this board.

[zigbee]

 Of course he's right and DACA already stopped it. Only those here in 2007 or sooner qualify.

What other nation allows this?  I don't know, but that's what makes the US the US.  We take in people trying to escape terrible, war-torn conditions and, as every poll I found showed, Americans do not want to send the DACA qualifying kids back.  And, as we saw during the last election, one topic (Muslim terrorism) can be a game changer.  So Trump better hope that not on DACA qualifiying kid is deported, if SCOTUS allows Trump to revoke it, because that is ALL we'll see on the news for days.

You need to read the news more.   Nations like France and Canada are stopping the stupidity of taking in people.  Let the war torn areas of the world figure it out for themselves and quit asking the US taxpayer to foot the bill for the stupidity of others.  Here under DACA?   FILE to become legal citizen.   Not hard to comprehend FOR MOST people.  The US is NOT the land for refugees that cause crime, spend tax dollars, etc.   It has to end.

I understand your position. I'm not trying to debate the pros and cons of DACA. What I am saying is, based on the clear opinion of Americans, this is a stupid fight on the part of trump. You don't have to undo DACA to implement a permanent solution.

Sure, and I'm not really convinced over these polls either.
AND you do need to end DACA to stop the kids coming in and not encourage it.   Bring a kid here illegally?  See ya, bye.  We have to be a nation of laws and we have to enforce them and hold people accountable.

If you don't believe the top polling agencies, which ones would you believe?

DACA  only applies to kids brought here 2007 and earlier.  So, yes, all kids after that do not get the benefit.  Of course, again, this is a fight that really has little to no upside and lots of downside.

Good point.    I would argue that these people should apply for citizenship.  They want to be citizens, so why not go with Trump's plan for that?

[zigbee]

And this loophole for parole and advanced parole where the dreamers leave and want to re-enter just complicates this mess even more:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...-immigran/

[P1tchblack]

You need to read the news more.   Nations like France and Canada are stopping the stupidity of taking in people.  Let the war torn areas of the world figure it out for themselves and quit asking the US taxpayer to foot the bill for the stupidity of others.  Here under DACA?   FILE to become legal citizen.   Not hard to comprehend FOR MOST people.  The US is NOT the land for refugees that cause crime, spend tax dollars, etc.   It has to end.

I understand your position. I'm not trying to debate the pros and cons of DACA. What I am saying is, based on the clear opinion of Americans, this is a stupid fight on the part of trump. You don't have to undo DACA to implement a permanent solution.

Sure, and I'm not really convinced over these polls either.
AND you do need to end DACA to stop the kids coming in and not encourage it.   Bring a kid here illegally?  See ya, bye.  We have to be a nation of laws and we have to enforce them and hold people accountable.

If you don't believe the top polling agencies, which ones would you believe?

DACA  only applies to kids brought here 2007 and earlier.  So, yes, all kids after that do not get the benefit.  Of course, again, this is a fight that really has little to no upside and lots of downside.

What are you talking about?  It is ALL upside for the socialists via the ballet box.  The socialists want to keep their voters in the country.  The only downside would be if they get deported.

Most people don't look at things as left v right or politically for that matter.

[zigbee]

The entire mess really goes back to people breaking the law and Obama not wanting to enforce the law and taking the easy way out which would avoid a confrontation of people here illegally and also gain a few votes for dems.   Any nation not in control of its borders and who is in the country lawfully is asking for trouble and we've seen this with gangs, drugs, murder and rape among the illegals.

[P1tchblack]

The entire mess really goes back to people breaking the law and Obama not wanting to enforce the law and taking the easy way out which would avoid a confrontation of people here illegally and also gain a few votes for dems.   Any nation not in control of its borders and who is in the country lawfully is asking for trouble and we've seen this with gangs, drugs, murder and rape among the illegals.

No president,  from either party, has done anything to address the issue.  Why? Because Rs want cheap labor and Ds are emotional.

Of course, that is irrelevant to the current situation Trump is in and, not surprisingly, the needless fight he's fighting.

[zigbee]

The entire mess really goes back to people breaking the law and Obama not wanting to enforce the law and taking the easy way out which would avoid a confrontation of people here illegally and also gain a few votes for dems.   Any nation not in control of its borders and who is in the country lawfully is asking for trouble and we've seen this with gangs, drugs, murder and rape among the illegals.

No president,  from either party, has done anything to address the issue.  Why? Because Rs want cheap labor and Ds are emotional.

Of course, that is irrelevant to the current situation Trump is in and, not surprisingly, the needless fight he's fighting.

Only the Rs want cheap labor?  Please..that is a tired old colloquial bunch of mush.  Who are the rich?  They living in mostly Ohio, Kentucky, or W Va?  Or are they in the high end cities and states?  Dems are emotional?  They are calculating is a better way of putting it.