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(10-28-2019, 01:00 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-28-2019, 12:52 PM)zigbee Wrote: (10-28-2019, 12:34 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-28-2019, 12:27 PM)zigbee Wrote: (10-28-2019, 12:21 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: Well, then she should go to prison for life. So....I see change here in philosophy.
In what way? From justice served with the killing and set free to going to prison for life?
that's not a change in philosophy. The explain it if not....you said set her free for killing the man. Now? go to prison? Go ahead and expound.
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(10-28-2019, 01:15 PM)zigbee Wrote: (10-28-2019, 01:00 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-28-2019, 12:52 PM)zigbee Wrote: (10-28-2019, 12:34 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-28-2019, 12:27 PM)zigbee Wrote: So....I see change here in philosophy.
In what way? From justice served with the killing and set free to going to prison for life?
that's not a change in philosophy. The explain it if not....you said set her free for killing the man. Now? go to prison? Go ahead and expound.
that's not a change in philosophy, it's a change in the situation. IF she was the victim, and had to kill the guy to escape: fine. If she was NOT the victim and killed the guy to rob him: then she should be punished.
Who determines if she's a victim?
(10-28-2019, 01:58 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: Who determines if she's a victim?
No person determines that. The facts, which only one living person knows, determine it. Kind of like Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman.
The justice/court system determined that she was guilty of killing the guy.
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(10-28-2019, 02:06 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-28-2019, 01:58 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: Who determines if she's a victim?
No person determines that. The facts, which only one living person knows, determine it. Kind of like Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman.
The justice/court system determined that she was guilty of killing the guy. HUH?  Ever heard of a jury and judge?
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(10-28-2019, 02:06 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-28-2019, 01:58 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: Who determines if she's a victim?
No person determines that. The facts, which only one living person knows, determine it. Kind of like Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman.
The justice/court system determined that she was guilty of killing the guy.
The facts determine if she's a victim. I agree. How are the facts established to decide if she's a victim?
(10-28-2019, 04:26 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: (10-28-2019, 02:06 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-28-2019, 01:58 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: Who determines if she's a victim?
No person determines that. The facts, which only one living person knows, determine it. Kind of like Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman.
The justice/court system determined that she was guilty of killing the guy.
The facts determine if she's a victim. I agree. How are the facts established to decide if she's a victim?
What is considered "facts" is determined/interpreted/spun, etc, by many people along the way. Cops do their best to derive facts from the people involved. Lawyers do their best to present the "facts" in a way that benefits their side. Like I said, we'll never know all the facts of the Trayvon Martin situation. We'll only know what Zimmerman told us and what cops try to recreate.
(10-28-2019, 04:41 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-28-2019, 04:26 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: (10-28-2019, 02:06 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-28-2019, 01:58 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: Who determines if she's a victim?
No person determines that. The facts, which only one living person knows, determine it. Kind of like Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman.
The justice/court system determined that she was guilty of killing the guy.
The facts determine if she's a victim. I agree. How are the facts established to decide if she's a victim?
What is considered "facts" is determined/interpreted/spun, etc, by many people along the way. Cops do their best to derive facts from the people involved. Lawyers do their best to present the "facts" in a way that benefits their side. Like I said, we'll never know all the facts of the Trayvon Martin situation. We'll only know what Zimmerman told us and what cops try to recreate.
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