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Buckeyes start at 16 in Hoops Coaches poll
37-28 Ohio State up at half on Minnesota.
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Buckeyes up 3 with under 12 minutes to go.
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Tied at 51 under 7 minutes to go.
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Buckeyes up 2 points with minute to go.   Gophers with the ball.
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62-59 Minnesota wins.  Incredible.
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IF lrrps is reading this: I agree on OSU being a NIT team THIS YEAR.  In all my years watching basketball I cannot remember a team falling this badly after such a high ranking.  The guard play is poor.  They cannot shoot very well.   And they have a hard time stopping a solid guard like tonight.  They were up 9 at half and lost by 3.  Incredible.
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Not sure Holtmann is the guy.  Why put the same five guys in to start the second half when they were pathetically horrible in the first half?  They quickly blew the lead and all momentum from the first half was lost.  Just dumb.  Our team is lacking in basketball IQ and I'm starting to worry about the coach as well.
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(01-23-2020, 09:27 PM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote: Not sure Holtmann is the guy.  Why put the same five guys in to start the second half when they were pathetically horrible in the first half?  They quickly blew the lead and all momentum from the first half was lost.  Just dumb.  Our team is lacking in basketball IQ and I'm starting to worry about the coach as well.
I'm not sure who he can turn to on the bench.   The same guards who were romping and scoring early in year are now lacking confidence and the Big Man inside is not creating offense from inside out.  A Wesson was bad tonight.   K Wesson played hard and rebounded but could not score.  Muhammad with his usual terrible game as well.
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(01-23-2020, 09:31 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(01-23-2020, 09:27 PM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote: Not sure Holtmann is the guy.  Why put the same five guys in to start the second half when they were pathetically horrible in the first half?  They quickly blew the lead and all momentum from the first half was lost.  Just dumb.  Our team is lacking in basketball IQ and I'm starting to worry about the coach as well.
I'm not sure who he can turn to on the bench.   The same guards who were romping and scoring early in year are now lacking confidence and the Big Man inside is not creating offense from inside out.  A Wesson was bad tonight.   K Wesson played hard and rebounded but could not score.  Muhammad with his usual terrible game as well.
At this point, I think they do the most damage on offense when Washington, Carton, and Walker are on the floor together.  When three of the four combinations of the Wessons, Liddell and Young are on the floor, we're just too slow and we have no offense if K Wesson can't make a shot (and he's been struggling for the last several games).
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(01-24-2020, 07:26 AM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote:
(01-23-2020, 09:31 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(01-23-2020, 09:27 PM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote: Not sure Holtmann is the guy.  Why put the same five guys in to start the second half when they were pathetically horrible in the first half?  They quickly blew the lead and all momentum from the first half was lost.  Just dumb.  Our team is lacking in basketball IQ and I'm starting to worry about the coach as well.
I'm not sure who he can turn to on the bench.   The same guards who were romping and scoring early in year are now lacking confidence and the Big Man inside is not creating offense from inside out.  A Wesson was bad tonight.   K Wesson played hard and rebounded but could not score.  Muhammad with his usual terrible game as well.
At this point, I think they do the most damage on offense when Washington, Carton, and Walker are on the floor together.  When three of the four combinations of the Wessons, Liddell and Young are on the floor, we're just too slow and we have no offense if K Wesson can't make a shot (and he's been struggling for the last several games).
Team is not getting along either.  Muhammad and Washington got into a scuffle which led to them being suspended.
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(01-24-2020, 09:27 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(01-24-2020, 07:26 AM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote:
(01-23-2020, 09:31 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(01-23-2020, 09:27 PM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote: Not sure Holtmann is the guy.  Why put the same five guys in to start the second half when they were pathetically horrible in the first half?  They quickly blew the lead and all momentum from the first half was lost.  Just dumb.  Our team is lacking in basketball IQ and I'm starting to worry about the coach as well.
I'm not sure who he can turn to on the bench.   The same guards who were romping and scoring early in year are now lacking confidence and the Big Man inside is not creating offense from inside out.  A Wesson was bad tonight.   K Wesson played hard and rebounded but could not score.  Muhammad with his usual terrible game as well.
At this point, I think they do the most damage on offense when Washington, Carton, and Walker are on the floor together.  When three of the four combinations of the Wessons, Liddell and Young are on the floor, we're just too slow and we have no offense if K Wesson can't make a shot (and he's been struggling for the last several games).
Team is not getting along either.  Muhammad and Washington got into a scuffle which led to them being suspended.
I did not know that.
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(01-24-2020, 09:54 AM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote:
(01-24-2020, 09:27 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(01-24-2020, 07:26 AM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote:
(01-23-2020, 09:31 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(01-23-2020, 09:27 PM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote: Not sure Holtmann is the guy.  Why put the same five guys in to start the second half when they were pathetically horrible in the first half?  They quickly blew the lead and all momentum from the first half was lost.  Just dumb.  Our team is lacking in basketball IQ and I'm starting to worry about the coach as well.
I'm not sure who he can turn to on the bench.   The same guards who were romping and scoring early in year are now lacking confidence and the Big Man inside is not creating offense from inside out.  A Wesson was bad tonight.   K Wesson played hard and rebounded but could not score.  Muhammad with his usual terrible game as well.
At this point, I think they do the most damage on offense when Washington, Carton, and Walker are on the floor together.  When three of the four combinations of the Wessons, Liddell and Young are on the floor, we're just too slow and we have no offense if K Wesson can't make a shot (and he's been struggling for the last several games).
Team is not getting along either.  Muhammad and Washington got into a scuffle which led to them being suspended.
I did not know that.
Yes, the chemistry is not good and the execution is not good, and the offense just struggles.  I sit there and watch this club and get frustrated.
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(01-24-2020, 09:58 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(01-24-2020, 09:54 AM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote:
(01-24-2020, 09:27 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(01-24-2020, 07:26 AM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote:
(01-23-2020, 09:31 PM)zigbee Wrote: I'm not sure who he can turn to on the bench.   The same guards who were romping and scoring early in year are now lacking confidence and the Big Man inside is not creating offense from inside out.  A Wesson was bad tonight.   K Wesson played hard and rebounded but could not score.  Muhammad with his usual terrible game as well.
At this point, I think they do the most damage on offense when Washington, Carton, and Walker are on the floor together.  When three of the four combinations of the Wessons, Liddell and Young are on the floor, we're just too slow and we have no offense if K Wesson can't make a shot (and he's been struggling for the last several games).
Team is not getting along either.  Muhammad and Washington got into a scuffle which led to them being suspended.
I did not know that.
Yes, the chemistry is not good and the execution is not good, and the offense just struggles.  I sit there and watch this club and get frustrated.
I'm right there with you.  I've watched every game and I've never seen a team go from so good to so bad.
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(01-24-2020, 12:29 PM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote:
(01-24-2020, 09:58 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(01-24-2020, 09:54 AM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote:
(01-24-2020, 09:27 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(01-24-2020, 07:26 AM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote: At this point, I think they do the most damage on offense when Washington, Carton, and Walker are on the floor together.  When three of the four combinations of the Wessons, Liddell and Young are on the floor, we're just too slow and we have no offense if K Wesson can't make a shot (and he's been struggling for the last several games).
Team is not getting along either.  Muhammad and Washington got into a scuffle which led to them being suspended.
I did not know that.
Yes, the chemistry is not good and the execution is not good, and the offense just struggles.  I sit there and watch this club and get frustrated.
I'm right there with you.  I've watched every game and I've never seen a team go from so good to so bad.
I can't fault the defense last night other than the Buckeyes should have double teamed Carr.  It's the offense.   They don't get good looks, they throw up shots they should not shoot.   In the last 2 minutes getting  Kyle Young nice cuts and dunks and shots was what they should have been doing to open up Minnesota all night.
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(01-24-2020, 12:32 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(01-24-2020, 12:29 PM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote:
(01-24-2020, 09:58 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(01-24-2020, 09:54 AM)PtreeCornersBuckeye Wrote:
(01-24-2020, 09:27 AM)zigbee Wrote: Team is not getting along either.  Muhammad and Washington got into a scuffle which led to them being suspended.
I did not know that.
Yes, the chemistry is not good and the execution is not good, and the offense just struggles.  I sit there and watch this club and get frustrated.
I'm right there with you.  I've watched every game and I've never seen a team go from so good to so bad.
I can't fault the defense last night other than the Buckeyes should have double teamed Carr.  It's the offense.   They don't get good looks, they throw up shots they should not shoot.   In the last 2 minutes getting  Kyle Young nice cuts and dunks and shots was what they should have been doing to open up Minnesota all night.
I agree about the offense..Luther has lost his shot, our point guards don't get assists, Washington is too much feast or famine (he took some really bad shots in the 2nd half), Andre always seems to disappear in the 2nd half.  However, I didn't expect KW to miss so many close range shots last night.  And I still can't believe our last two shots were three's by KW...that's either bad playcalling or horrible execution.
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