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(10-24-2019, 10:53 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:36 AM)buckeyewalt Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:32 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:27 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:17 AM)BoyGenius Wrote: "... despite all the evidence casting doubt on his guilt." Comical.
No, a stay of execution isn't warranted...
I think the playing of the race card here is pretty cheap. That said, I don't see the harm in reviewing the DNA evidence/conducting further DNA tests and taking into account her cousin's testimony that they were indeed having an affair. Her fiance's history isn't exactly that of a boyscout either. If I were the gov, based on what I see here, I would stay the execution until ***** got resolved. i.e. I don't see the harm in further DNA testing.Â
I'm curious as to whether the cousin was ever heard in the original trial, and if not, why not.
All white jury.... in Texas.... where a black guy is having an affair with a white girl who's engaged to a white guy. I think one could say there's reason to believe race may have played a roll. So you say an all white jury can't be impartial?
Nope. Never said that. I AM saying that there is the potential for race to be a factor in this situation. Yeah. Maybe that is why he murdered her.
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(10-24-2019, 10:38 AM)buckeyewalt Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:33 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:30 AM)buckeyewalt Wrote: They've had 23 years to prove he was not the killer and now they claim to have "new" evidence. Give me a break.
What's the harm in delaying execution?  Is there a rush to have the government kill the its citizens? Once you get past a certain time, people will have a tendency to embellish things. Again they've had 23 years....23YEARS
Right... but what's the rush? Is a few more weeks or a month going to matter to make sure the government isn't killing an innocent person? You can't unkill someone.
(10-24-2019, 10:32 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: All white jury.... in Texas.... where a black guy is having an affair with a white girl who's engaged to a white guy. I think one could say there's reason to believe race may have played a roll. Â
Nothing presented remotely suggests race was an issue.Â
Only guilty black men play the race card... if he was found "not guilty" that same all white jury isn't mentioned at all.
(10-24-2019, 10:55 AM)BoyGenius Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:32 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: All white jury.... in Texas.... where a black guy is having an affair with a white girl who's engaged to a white guy. I think one could say there's reason to believe race may have played a roll. Â
Nothing presented remotely suggests race was an issue.Â
Only guilty black men play the race card... if he was found "not guilty" that same all white jury isn't mentioned at all.
Of course the jury isn't mentioned if there is a "not guilty" verdict. Racism is generally an "anti" not "pro" stance.*
* except when it comes to large white girls and skinny black guys
(10-24-2019, 10:33 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:30 AM)buckeyewalt Wrote: They've had 23 years to prove he was not the killer and now they claim to have "new" evidence. Give me a break.
What's the harm in delaying execution?  Is there a rush to have the government kill the its citizens?
He's exhausted ALL of his appeals. This is what defense attorneys do when the ONLY remaining path to stop the execution is SCOTUS and the governor. Hence the rush to get a stay is the norm, standard operating procedure... make noise hoping something will happen. It won't. He is going to be executed.
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(10-24-2019, 10:54 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:38 AM)buckeyewalt Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:33 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:30 AM)buckeyewalt Wrote: They've had 23 years to prove he was not the killer and now they claim to have "new" evidence. Give me a break.
What's the harm in delaying execution?  Is there a rush to have the government kill the its citizens? Once you get past a certain time, people will have a tendency to embellish things. Again they've had 23 years....23YEARS
Right... but what's the rush? Is that a joke? It's been over 20 years. The question is why wasn't this sentence carried out long ago.
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(10-24-2019, 10:50 AM)BoyGenius Wrote: There are numerous automatic appeals for death row inmates. Numerous. Calling boyscout on the affair. The convicted murderer had to explain how his DNA was present somehow. As for the cousin's story... another step trying to explain the DNA and any marginally competent DA would impeach the cousin in 5 minutes.
But, I've only considered only what was written in the article... the writer didn't present any information that would overturn the conviction.
Agree. I mean they could have been having the affair, but that doesn't mean he didn't still kill her. Still would like to see this further DNA testing done though. This is life or death. Â
There's a lot of info the article is lacking. Mainly in regards to the cousin's claim of an affair. Is this the first we are hearing of this? etc... Â
Could all just be a standard delay tactic, I don't know. I just don't like the implication that 12 white people would wrongfully convict a man to death simply because they weren't thrilled with the racial make up of an affair. That or they allowed him to take the fall simply to let a guilty white man walk. 12 people put the facts aside and convicted a man based on race? Silly notion in my mind. This isn't 1925.
(10-24-2019, 11:00 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:55 AM)BoyGenius Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:32 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: All white jury.... in Texas.... where a black guy is having an affair with a white girl who's engaged to a white guy. I think one could say there's reason to believe race may have played a roll. Â
Nothing presented remotely suggests race was an issue.Â
Only guilty black men play the race card... if he was found "not guilty" that same all white jury isn't mentioned at all.
Of course the jury isn't mentioned if there is a "not guilty" verdict. Racism is generally an "anti" not "pro" stance.*
According to the writer and you... those 12 white jury members must be racist because only racists and bigots would convict a black man whose DNA was found at the crime scene. Make no mistake, the inference is if there were black jurors or at least if the jury wasn't all-white, the defendant would be a free man. If the color of the jurors was paramount in defending this guy, that's 100% on his defense attorney(s) for not adding a little color to the jury.
(10-24-2019, 11:02 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:54 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:38 AM)buckeyewalt Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:33 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:30 AM)buckeyewalt Wrote: They've had 23 years to prove he was not the killer and now they claim to have "new" evidence. Give me a break.
What's the harm in delaying execution?  Is there a rush to have the government kill the its citizens? Once you get past a certain time, people will have a tendency to embellish things. Again they've had 23 years....23YEARS
Right... but what's the rush? Is that a joke? It's been over 20 years. The question is why wasn't this sentence carried out long ago.
This...
(10-24-2019, 11:02 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:54 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:38 AM)buckeyewalt Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:33 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:30 AM)buckeyewalt Wrote: They've had 23 years to prove he was not the killer and now they claim to have "new" evidence. Give me a break.
What's the harm in delaying execution?  Is there a rush to have the government kill the its citizens? Once you get past a certain time, people will have a tendency to embellish things. Again they've had 23 years....23YEARS
Right... but what's the rush? Is that a joke? It's been over 20 years. The question is why wasn't this sentence carried out long ago.
Right. It's been 20 years, so what's it matter if it's delayed another month or so?
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(10-24-2019, 11:27 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-24-2019, 11:02 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:54 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:38 AM)buckeyewalt Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:33 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: What's the harm in delaying execution?  Is there a rush to have the government kill the its citizens? Once you get past a certain time, people will have a tendency to embellish things. Again they've had 23 years....23YEARS
Right... but what's the rush? Is that a joke? It's been over 20 years. The question is why wasn't this sentence carried out long ago.
Right. It's been 20 years, so what's it matter if it's delayed another month or so? No legal reason to do so.
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(10-24-2019, 11:31 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-24-2019, 11:27 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-24-2019, 11:02 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:54 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: (10-24-2019, 10:38 AM)buckeyewalt Wrote: Once you get past a certain time, people will have a tendency to embellish things. Again they've had 23 years....23YEARS
Right... but what's the rush? Is that a joke? It's been over 20 years. The question is why wasn't this sentence carried out long ago.
Right. It's been 20 years, so what's it matter if it's delayed another month or so? No legal reason to do so.
Who cares. Like I said, there's no way to unkill someone. Why would you not spend a little more to to be certain?
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