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The Need for public Toilets
#13
Give everyone $1000 a month and you won't have this problem.
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#14
(10-20-2019, 12:34 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-20-2019, 12:23 PM)Brutus Buckeye Wrote:
(10-20-2019, 12:20 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-20-2019, 12:01 PM)Brutus Buckeye Wrote:
(10-20-2019, 11:49 AM)zigbee Wrote: I've used them in plenty of big cities and they were not a danger.

Not in the ghetto you haven't. Every business has a sign that says "no public restrooms"
Gas station attendants aren't payed enough to pick up dirty needles off of the floor, and unplug toilets plugged with condoms.
Wasn't talking about the ghetto at all.  These businesses listed in the link weren't in the ghetto where crap was on the street.

If homeless people are crapping in the streets then it is a ghetto. A ghetto that either doesn't have public bathrooms, or has unsafe public bathrooms.
Your definition of ghetto then is much different than what is recognized.   This is going on in business districts, etc.


Well I don't know what constitutes a ghetto in Portsmouth, but homeless people shitting in the streets would qualify where I come from. 

I'm just saying that it's understandable that they don't provide public toilets, as no one is going to want to clean up after a bunch of homeless drug addicts.

Now you could install a bunch of Porto potties as Scarlet suggested, but you can't make people use them. They would be nasty as Hell, and if one or two got tipped over your have a much bigger mess than the on you are trying to fix.
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#15
(10-20-2019, 12:56 PM)Brutus Buckeye Wrote:
(10-20-2019, 12:34 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-20-2019, 12:23 PM)Brutus Buckeye Wrote:
(10-20-2019, 12:20 PM)zigbee Wrote: [quote='Brutus Buckeye' pid='61204' dateline='1571590861']

Not in the ghetto you haven't. Every business has a sign that says "no public restrooms"
Gas station attendants aren't payed enough to pick up dirty needles off of the floor, and unplug toilets plugged with condoms.
Wasn't talking about the ghetto at all.  These businesses listed in the link weren't in the ghetto where crap was on the street.

If homeless people are crapping in the streets then it is a ghetto. A ghetto that either doesn't have public bathrooms, or has unsafe public bathrooms.
Your definition of ghetto then is much different than what is recognized.   This is going on in business districts, etc.


Well I don't know what constitutes a ghetto in Portsmouth, but homeless people shitting in the streets would qualify where I come from. 

I'm just saying that it's understandable that they don't provide public toilets, as no one is going to want to clean up after a bunch of homeless drug addicts.

Now you could install a bunch of Porto potties as Scarlet suggested, but you can't make people use them. They would be nasty as Hell, and if one or two got tipped over your have a much bigger mess than the on you are trying to fix.

Ghetto:
noun
a part of a city, especially a slum area, occupied by a minority group or groups.
verb
put in or restrict to an isolated or segregated area or group.



The above really doesn't apply to a business district where there is commerce and such.    You can call it want ever you wish.

And again, I don't live in Portsmouth.   Moved months ago.
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#16
Never seen a ghetto that didn't have any businesses, but fine. Let's call it a "shitty part of town" instead of a ghetto. Now that we have ironed out the semantics, my point still stands. Every one of these businesses has toilets that they could open up to the public, but don't for good reasons. You could build rest stop type bathrooms, but they would just be convenient places for criminal activity due to privacy and the illegality of installing video cameras. The toilets would constantly get plugged with condoms, drug bags, and massive dumps; causing them to overflow all over the floor.

Maybe a segment of the homeless would use them, but most would decide that they'd rather just ***** outside than use the disgusting, crime infested homeless toilets. Hell I'm not homeless, and there have been times where I have elected to just ***** in the woods because the bathrooms provided were too gross. And they were not nearly as disgusting as the homeless shitters would be.
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#17
(10-20-2019, 02:39 PM)Brutus Buckeye Wrote: Never seen a ghetto that didn't have any businesses, but fine. Let's call it a "shitty part of town" instead of a ghetto. Now that we have ironed out the semantics, my point still stands. Every one of these businesses has toilets that they could open up to the public, but don't for good reasons. You could build rest stop type bathrooms, but they would just be convenient places for criminal activity due to privacy and the illegality of installing video cameras. The toilets would constantly get plugged with condoms, drug bags, and massive dumps; causing them to overflow all over the floor.

Maybe a segment of the homeless would use them, but most would decide that they'd rather just ***** outside than use the disgusting, crime infested homeless toilets. Hell I'm not homeless, and there have been times where I have elected to just ***** in the woods because the bathrooms provided were too gross. And they were not nearly as disgusting as the homeless shitters would be.
IF you read the link it's not going on in a bad part of Miami but in the areas that have commerce and so forth.  Downtown is not ghetto but you can believe what you wish.

Homeless people living on the streets and sidewalks of downtown Miami are also relieving themselves on the streets and sidewalks of downtown Miami, turning the cityâ€s core into an outdoor toilet, merchants and residents say.
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#18
Right, it sounds like just a lovely part of the city. I think I'll take my family there on our next vacation. Who wouldn't want to spend a week among the homeless sidewalk shitters, smelling the sweet stench of urine when you open your hotel window. Maybe we can share dirty needles with their street hookers while we are at it. Sounds awesome.
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#19
(10-20-2019, 04:59 PM)Brutus Buckeye Wrote: Right, it sounds like just a lovely part of the city. I think I'll take my family there on our next vacation. Who wouldn't want to spend a week among the homeless sidewalk shitters, smelling the sweet stench of urine when you open your hotel window. Maybe we can share dirty needles with their street hookers while we are at it. Sounds awesome.
No one said the homeless are restricted to ghettos, as they are not.   Look at SF and what they are trying to do to fight it.  These idiots are all over the place.  You can argue all you wish about the link and article and what they write.
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#20
It might have been a nice neighborhood in the past, but clearly it isn't anymore. If Dublin and Upper Arlington let a bunch of homeless people in who started shitting all over the sidewalks, they would cease to be nice neighborhoods as well. Supposedly the Hilltop was a wealthy area back in the 30s. Today it is full of homeless drug addicts who at least have the decency not to ***** all over the sidewalks. Once a neighborhood has that going on, it has officially lost it's status as a nice part of town.

I don't even see how that is debatable, really. I kind of feel bad for you if that is your idea of a nice place to be.
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#21
(10-20-2019, 05:20 PM)Brutus Buckeye Wrote: It might have been a nice neighborhood in the past, but clearly it isn't anymore. If Dublin and Upper Arlington let a bunch of homeless people in who started shitting all over the sidewalks, they would cease to be nice neighborhoods as well. Supposedly the Hilltop was a wealthy area back in the 30s. Today it is full of homeless drug addicts who at least have the decency not to ***** all over the sidewalks. Once a neighborhood has that going on, it has officially lost it's status as a nice part of town.

I don't even see how that is debatable, really. I kind of feel bad for you if that is your idea of a nice place to be.
No, I feel bad for you that you have to put words in a post that I did NOT say or type ( I guess to try and win a internet argument?[Image: emoji471.png]).  Show me where I said that downtown Miami was  my idea of a nice place.  Downtown is not a ghetto in Miami, and the homeless are defecating and urinating everywhere including DOWNTOWN MIAMI.  I'll be waiting...
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#22
I am simply agreeing with your previous post where you suggested that you and I have very different ideas of what constitutes a shitty neighborhood.

This neighborhood is LITERALLY a shitty neighborhood. There is no such thing as a nice neighborhood where homeless people are shitting all over the sidewalk, in my opinion. Even if it had everything else going for it, the fact that you have to step over homeless people and between piles of human ***** would completely cancel out all the other stuff.
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#23
(10-20-2019, 06:00 PM)Brutus Buckeye Wrote: I am simply agreeing with your previous post where you suggested that you and I have very different ideas of what constitutes a shitty neighborhood.

This neighborhood is LITERALLY a shitty neighborhood. There is no such thing as a nice neighborhood where homeless people are shitting all over the sidewalk, in my opinion. Even if it had everything else going for it, the fact that you have to step over homeless people and between piles of human ***** would completely cancel out all the other stuff.
I don't think Miami or SF or really many big cities are what constitutes a great neighborhood at all.  The entire point of the link was how homeless people are making things worse and what needs to be done about it.  If you go back and look I said round them up and put them in camps outside the city.  The downtown areas of these cities are not considered ghettos.
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#24
(10-20-2019, 06:20 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-20-2019, 06:00 PM)Brutus Buckeye Wrote: I am simply agreeing with your previous post where you suggested that you and I have very different ideas of what constitutes a shitty neighborhood.

This neighborhood is LITERALLY a shitty neighborhood. There is no such thing as a nice neighborhood where homeless people are shitting all over the sidewalk, in my opinion. Even if it had everything else going for it, the fact that you have to step over homeless people and between piles of human ***** would completely cancel out all the other stuff.
I don't think Miami or SF or really many big cities are what constitutes a great neighborhood at all.  The entire point of the link was how homeless people are making things worse and what needs to be done about it.  If you go back and look I said round them up and put them in camps outside the city.  The downtown areas of these cities are not considered ghettos.


Yeah fine, build the toilets, round them up, whatever. I'm just dumbfounded that you don't consider 1000s of homeless people pooping on the sidewalk to be enough to constitute a bad part of town in and of itself. In my opinion it becomes a bad part of town long before it gets to that point. Columbus has a lot of bad areas. But none are even close to being THAT bad.
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