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What Trump is and does is really liberal wet dream
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https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-po...ack-brewer
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#2
Excellent article, Zig.  [Image: emoji106.png]
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#3
So, what does this say about “conservatives “ who wonâ€t hear a bad word about Trump?
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(10-19-2019, 10:03 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: So, what does this say about “conservatives “ who wonâ€t hear a bad word about Trump?
That they were wrong on illegal immigration?  Use of American troops all over the world?  Treatment of blacks?  Working with world leaders?
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So what is the gist of the article?
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Yes, hypocrisy abounds.  That said, watching the left do things like argue against a president wanting to get out of wars/conflicts, etc...  is an absolute hoot.  Bush was a war criminal.  So what does that make Trump?  

I think you can more or less boil DC down to this:  both sides need drama to run against (cough cough Obama Care repeal and replace cough cough cough).  Actually DOING/FIXING problems is the last thing on their minds.  This is yet another reason why Trump is so dangerous to the establishment.
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(10-19-2019, 10:09 AM)Brutus Buckeye Wrote: So what is the gist of the article?

All the good Trump has done for the black community, along with the deafening silence and/or hostility that has followed.
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The deportation numbers of Obama versus Trump have been discussed before.  It's like comparing apples to oranges because of how they were counted differently and emphasis.  Anyone who believes Obama was better on protecting the border than Trump should be in a loony bin.
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(10-19-2019, 10:16 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: The deportation numbers of Obama versus Trump have been discussed before.  It's like comparing apples to oranges because of how they were counted differently and emphasis.  Anyone who believes Obama was better on protecting the border than Trump should be in a loony bin.
Who said that?  Point was Obama was kicking out millions and the liberals were fine with it.   TRUTH IS...IF Obama had run concentration camps and stuck these illegals in gas fired ovens and baked their ass the liberals would have been cool with it.  They were fine with using an agency of the government (IRS) to attack a opposition political group.  They are fine with FISA use to spy on Americans...
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(10-19-2019, 10:16 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: The deportation numbers of Obama versus Trump have been discussed before.  It's like comparing apples to oranges because of how they were counted differently and emphasis.  Anyone who believes Obama was better on protecting the border than Trump should be in a loony bin.

True.  Obama would cite numbers/stats to show his toughness on the border, but the on-the-ground reality was painting a much different picture once you actually delved into the numbers.  Obama's BP would throw illegal crossers into a van with the back door wide open.  Look at how many people we have detained!   Rolleyes
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(10-19-2019, 10:20 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-19-2019, 10:16 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: The deportation numbers of Obama versus Trump have been discussed before.  It's like comparing apples to oranges because of how they were counted differently and emphasis.  Anyone who believes Obama was better on protecting the border than Trump should be in a loony bin.
Who said that?  Point was Obama was kicking out millions and the liberals were fine with it.   TRUTH IS...IF Obama had run concentration camps and stuck these illegals in gas fired ovens and baked their ass the liberals would have been cool with it.  They were fine with using an agency of the government (IRS) to attack a opposition political group.  They are fine with FISA use to spy on Americans...

He was actually encouraging millions of illegals to come here by not protecting the border and by running ads for food stamps.  He spoke to a group of illegals and referred to those of us who wanted border security as the enemy.  His deportations were largely just a revolving door with many returning almost as soon as they were sent back.  Zero emphasis on keeping them out.  Fox News is becoming just another clown show publishing these type of articles.
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(10-19-2019, 10:20 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-19-2019, 10:16 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: The deportation numbers of Obama versus Trump have been discussed before.  It's like comparing apples to oranges because of how they were counted differently and emphasis.  Anyone who believes Obama was better on protecting the border than Trump should be in a loony bin.
Who said that?  Point was Obama was kicking out millions and the liberals were fine with it.   TRUTH IS...IF Obama had run concentration camps and stuck these illegals in gas fired ovens and baked their ass the liberals would have been cool with it.  They were fine with using an agency of the government (IRS) to attack a opposition political group.  They are fine with FISA use to spy on Americans...

I don't disagree with the point made in the article.  But when you actually delve into the reality of the specific border situation (on a stand alone discussion point), Obama was a joke.  Obama was "kicking out millions" with haphazard border security.  i.e. for every one kicked out you probably had 2 or 3 more coming across.  etc....
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(10-19-2019, 10:26 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(10-19-2019, 10:20 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-19-2019, 10:16 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: The deportation numbers of Obama versus Trump have been discussed before.  It's like comparing apples to oranges because of how they were counted differently and emphasis.  Anyone who believes Obama was better on protecting the border than Trump should be in a loony bin.
Who said that?  Point was Obama was kicking out millions and the liberals were fine with it.   TRUTH IS...IF Obama had run concentration camps and stuck these illegals in gas fired ovens and baked their ass the liberals would have been cool with it.  They were fine with using an agency of the government (IRS) to attack a opposition political group.  They are fine with FISA use to spy on Americans...

He was actually encouraging millions of illegals to come here by not protecting the border and by running ads for food stamps.  He spoke to a group of illegals and referred to those of us who wanted border security as the enemy.  His deportations were largely just a revolving door with many returning almost as soon as they were sent back.  Zero emphasis on keeping them out.  Fox News is becoming just another clown show publishing these type of articles.
Nope....you don't like it because a black guy wrote it.  Just admit the truth.  It's pretty evident.  What he wrote is spot on true to the last letter.
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(10-19-2019, 10:27 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote:
(10-19-2019, 10:20 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-19-2019, 10:16 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: The deportation numbers of Obama versus Trump have been discussed before.  It's like comparing apples to oranges because of how they were counted differently and emphasis.  Anyone who believes Obama was better on protecting the border than Trump should be in a loony bin.
Who said that?  Point was Obama was kicking out millions and the liberals were fine with it.   TRUTH IS...IF Obama had run concentration camps and stuck these illegals in gas fired ovens and baked their ass the liberals would have been cool with it.  They were fine with using an agency of the government (IRS) to attack a opposition political group.  They are fine with FISA use to spy on Americans...

I don't disagree with the point made in the article.  But when you actually delve into the reality of the specific border situation (on a stand alone discussion point), Obama was a joke.  Obama was "kicking out millions" with haphazard border security.  i.e. for every one kicked out you probably had 2 or 3 more coming across.  etc....
Unless a nation has a secure barrier such as a wall it can't be stopped to a large degree.
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(10-19-2019, 10:30 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-19-2019, 10:26 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(10-19-2019, 10:20 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-19-2019, 10:16 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: The deportation numbers of Obama versus Trump have been discussed before.  It's like comparing apples to oranges because of how they were counted differently and emphasis.  Anyone who believes Obama was better on protecting the border than Trump should be in a loony bin.
Who said that?  Point was Obama was kicking out millions and the liberals were fine with it.   TRUTH IS...IF Obama had run concentration camps and stuck these illegals in gas fired ovens and baked their ass the liberals would have been cool with it.  They were fine with using an agency of the government (IRS) to attack a opposition political group.  They are fine with FISA use to spy on Americans...

He was actually encouraging millions of illegals to come here by not protecting the border and by running ads for food stamps.  He spoke to a group of illegals and referred to those of us who wanted border security as the enemy.  His deportations were largely just a revolving door with many returning almost as soon as they were sent back.  Zero emphasis on keeping them out.  Fox News is becoming just another clown show publishing these type of articles.
Nope....you don't like it because a black guy wrote it.  Just admit the truth.  It's pretty evident.  What he wrote is spot on true to the last letter.
I don't like because it just rehashes old talking points many of which have been discredited.  Whiteknighting for blacks already today?  My comment has nothing to do with race although I do find it amusing how conservatives desperately latch onto blacks just to show they aren't racist.  The article is lame.  Have you considered perusing sites other than Fox News?  If not why can't we just pin a thread with Fox.com and be done with it?
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