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(10-12-2019, 07:15 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: The problem with your statement is whites are barely a majority even now, but in the future will be a minority. Functionally they are a minority already because at least 20% of whites would celebrate their own demise.
Of course they would. They've been brainwashed and bought the whole enchilada. Â
I guess I was naive in my hope that the truth would one day be pushed on the topic. If ya want to right a wrong or make amends, you start dealing with the truth. How blacks were treated in this nation was an absolute abomination. That said, it's also true that very few whites actually owned slaves, and many whites (and their offspring, of course) didn't get here til well after the Civil War. Jim Crow, et al was a regional thing, etc... Â
Anyway, yeah, race was/is used to divide and conquer. Expecting the truth to win out at this stage is virtually a pipe dream.
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(10-12-2019, 08:38 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: (10-12-2019, 07:15 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: The problem with your statement is whites are barely a majority even now, but in the future will be a minority. Functionally they are a minority already because at least 20% of whites would celebrate their own demise.
Of course they would. They've been brainwashed and bought the whole enchilada. Â
I guess I was naive in my hope that the truth would one day be pushed on the topic. If ya want to right a wrong or make amends, you start dealing with the truth. How blacks were treated in this nation was an absolute abomination. That said, it's also true that very few whites actually owned slaves, and many whites (and their offspring, of course) didn't get here til well after the Civil War. Jim Crow, et al was a regional thing, etc... Â
Anyway, yeah, race was/is used to divide and conquer. Expecting the truth to win out at this stage is virtually a pipe dream.
Which is why I have become open to the idea of ethno-states. If blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc are so unhappy living with white people, let them have their own states. They can be free from white oppression and free to be as great as they believe themselves to be just like they are in places like Haiti, Somalia, the Sudan, Mexico, Venezuela, etc.
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(10-12-2019, 09:04 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 08:38 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: (10-12-2019, 07:15 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: The problem with your statement is whites are barely a majority even now, but in the future will be a minority. Functionally they are a minority already because at least 20% of whites would celebrate their own demise.
Of course they would. They've been brainwashed and bought the whole enchilada. Â
I guess I was naive in my hope that the truth would one day be pushed on the topic. If ya want to right a wrong or make amends, you start dealing with the truth. How blacks were treated in this nation was an absolute abomination. That said, it's also true that very few whites actually owned slaves, and many whites (and their offspring, of course) didn't get here til well after the Civil War. Jim Crow, et al was a regional thing, etc... Â
Anyway, yeah, race was/is used to divide and conquer. Expecting the truth to win out at this stage is virtually a pipe dream.
Which is why I have become open to the idea of ethno-states. If blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc are so unhappy living with white people, let them have their own states. They can be free from white oppression and free to be as great as they believe themselves to be just like they are in places like Haiti, Somalia, the Sudan, Mexico, Venezuela, etc.  SO...in your make believe ethno states only ONE race or type of people are allowed? Segregated makes all problems cease? Got bad people of all colors and segregating them won't fix that.
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(10-12-2019, 11:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: (10-12-2019, 09:04 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 08:38 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: (10-12-2019, 07:15 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: The problem with your statement is whites are barely a majority even now, but in the future will be a minority. Functionally they are a minority already because at least 20% of whites would celebrate their own demise.
Of course they would. They've been brainwashed and bought the whole enchilada. Â
I guess I was naive in my hope that the truth would one day be pushed on the topic. If ya want to right a wrong or make amends, you start dealing with the truth. How blacks were treated in this nation was an absolute abomination. That said, it's also true that very few whites actually owned slaves, and many whites (and their offspring, of course) didn't get here til well after the Civil War. Jim Crow, et al was a regional thing, etc... Â
Anyway, yeah, race was/is used to divide and conquer. Expecting the truth to win out at this stage is virtually a pipe dream.
Which is why I have become open to the idea of ethno-states. If blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc are so unhappy living with white people, let them have their own states. They can be free from white oppression and free to be as great as they believe themselves to be just like they are in places like Haiti, Somalia, the Sudan, Mexico, Venezuela, etc.  SO...in your make believe ethno states only ONE race or type of people are allowed? Segregated makes all problems cease? Got bad people of all colors and segregating them won't fix that.
Yeah, the current multicultural system, where the white majority is being replaced, and which will evolve into a socialist totalitarian dictatorship at some point, is working so well. So what is your plan zig to convince non-whites to embrace liberty and freedom instead of government and socialism? More money for Head Start? What is Fox News telling you? If you live long enough, even you will admit that a non-white majority, will be the ruination of America.
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(10-12-2019, 11:49 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 11:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: (10-12-2019, 09:04 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 08:38 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: (10-12-2019, 07:15 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: The problem with your statement is whites are barely a majority even now, but in the future will be a minority. Functionally they are a minority already because at least 20% of whites would celebrate their own demise.
Of course they would. They've been brainwashed and bought the whole enchilada. Â
I guess I was naive in my hope that the truth would one day be pushed on the topic. If ya want to right a wrong or make amends, you start dealing with the truth. How blacks were treated in this nation was an absolute abomination. That said, it's also true that very few whites actually owned slaves, and many whites (and their offspring, of course) didn't get here til well after the Civil War. Jim Crow, et al was a regional thing, etc... Â
Anyway, yeah, race was/is used to divide and conquer. Expecting the truth to win out at this stage is virtually a pipe dream.
Which is why I have become open to the idea of ethno-states. If blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc are so unhappy living with white people, let them have their own states. They can be free from white oppression and free to be as great as they believe themselves to be just like they are in places like Haiti, Somalia, the Sudan, Mexico, Venezuela, etc.  SO...in your make believe ethno states only ONE race or type of people are allowed? Segregated makes all problems cease? Got bad people of all colors and segregating them won't fix that.
Yeah, the current multicultural system, where the white majority is being replaced, and which will evolve into a socialist totalitarian dictatorship at some point, is working so well. So what is your plan zig to convince non-whites to embrace liberty and freedom instead of government and socialism? More money for Head Start? What is Fox News telling you? If you live long enough, even you will admit that a non-white majority, will be the ruination of America. First of all to say ALL Black or hispanic are bad people due to race is incorrect.  To say all white people are great is incorrect, too.
With that said, what is my plan?  I'm not trying to lay out any plan other than to say the government needs to formulate one to incentivize things and not reward bad behavior with more money. That began the problem back in the 60s.  I see how it impacts whites who won't work, are on drugs, have multiple children out of wedlock, etc. It's the same.
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(10-12-2019, 12:14 PM)zigbee Wrote: (10-12-2019, 11:49 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 11:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: (10-12-2019, 09:04 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 08:38 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Of course they would. They've been brainwashed and bought the whole enchilada. Â
I guess I was naive in my hope that the truth would one day be pushed on the topic. If ya want to right a wrong or make amends, you start dealing with the truth. How blacks were treated in this nation was an absolute abomination. That said, it's also true that very few whites actually owned slaves, and many whites (and their offspring, of course) didn't get here til well after the Civil War. Jim Crow, et al was a regional thing, etc... Â
Anyway, yeah, race was/is used to divide and conquer. Expecting the truth to win out at this stage is virtually a pipe dream.
Which is why I have become open to the idea of ethno-states. If blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc are so unhappy living with white people, let them have their own states. They can be free from white oppression and free to be as great as they believe themselves to be just like they are in places like Haiti, Somalia, the Sudan, Mexico, Venezuela, etc.  SO...in your make believe ethno states only ONE race or type of people are allowed? Segregated makes all problems cease? Got bad people of all colors and segregating them won't fix that.
Yeah, the current multicultural system, where the white majority is being replaced, and which will evolve into a socialist totalitarian dictatorship at some point, is working so well. So what is your plan zig to convince non-whites to embrace liberty and freedom instead of government and socialism? More money for Head Start? What is Fox News telling you? If you live long enough, even you will admit that a non-white majority, will be the ruination of America. First of all to say ALL Black or hispanic are bad people due to race is incorrect.  To say all white people are great is incorrect, too.
With that said, what is my plan?  I'm not trying to lay out any plan other than to say the government needs to formulate one to incentivize things and not reward bad behavior with more money. That began the problem back in the 60s.  I see how it impacts whites who won't work, are on drugs, have multiple children out of wedlock, etc. It's the same.
Well obviously no one is saying all non-whites are bad or all whites are great. That's just the usual straw man.  Hard to believe someone who claims to be a conservative wants big gubmint to step in with a new plan to fix the mess that they created in the first place by trying to make blacks equal to whites.
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(10-12-2019, 12:20 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 12:14 PM)zigbee Wrote: (10-12-2019, 11:49 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 11:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: (10-12-2019, 09:04 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: Which is why I have become open to the idea of ethno-states. If blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc are so unhappy living with white people, let them have their own states. They can be free from white oppression and free to be as great as they believe themselves to be just like they are in places like Haiti, Somalia, the Sudan, Mexico, Venezuela, etc.  SO...in your make believe ethno states only ONE race or type of people are allowed? Segregated makes all problems cease? Got bad people of all colors and segregating them won't fix that.
Yeah, the current multicultural system, where the white majority is being replaced, and which will evolve into a socialist totalitarian dictatorship at some point, is working so well. So what is your plan zig to convince non-whites to embrace liberty and freedom instead of government and socialism? More money for Head Start? What is Fox News telling you? If you live long enough, even you will admit that a non-white majority, will be the ruination of America. First of all to say ALL Black or hispanic are bad people due to race is incorrect.  To say all white people are great is incorrect, too.
With that said, what is my plan?  I'm not trying to lay out any plan other than to say the government needs to formulate one to incentivize things and not reward bad behavior with more money. That began the problem back in the 60s.  I see how it impacts whites who won't work, are on drugs, have multiple children out of wedlock, etc. It's the same.
Well obviously no one is saying all non-whites are bad or all whites are great. That's just the usual straw man.  Hard to believe someone who claims to be a conservative wants big gubmint to step in with a new plan to fix the mess that they created in the first place by trying to make blacks equal to whites. LOL....riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...we see it daily on here with your posts. Please. And I challenge you to show where I want more government by stating that the government right NOW handing out money is causing problems for whites and blacks. I see it daily in my work with people. The government needs reduced not increased. We need incentives for better behavior not the opposite.
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(10-12-2019, 12:23 PM)zigbee Wrote: (10-12-2019, 12:20 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 12:14 PM)zigbee Wrote: (10-12-2019, 11:49 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 11:37 AM)zigbee Wrote:  SO...in your make believe ethno states only ONE race or type of people are allowed? Segregated makes all problems cease? Got bad people of all colors and segregating them won't fix that.
Yeah, the current multicultural system, where the white majority is being replaced, and which will evolve into a socialist totalitarian dictatorship at some point, is working so well. So what is your plan zig to convince non-whites to embrace liberty and freedom instead of government and socialism? More money for Head Start? What is Fox News telling you? If you live long enough, even you will admit that a non-white majority, will be the ruination of America. First of all to say ALL Black or hispanic are bad people due to race is incorrect.  To say all white people are great is incorrect, too.
With that said, what is my plan?  I'm not trying to lay out any plan other than to say the government needs to formulate one to incentivize things and not reward bad behavior with more money. That began the problem back in the 60s.  I see how it impacts whites who won't work, are on drugs, have multiple children out of wedlock, etc. It's the same.
Well obviously no one is saying all non-whites are bad or all whites are great. That's just the usual straw man.  Hard to believe someone who claims to be a conservative wants big gubmint to step in with a new plan to fix the mess that they created in the first place by trying to make blacks equal to whites. LOL....riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...we see it daily on here with your posts. Please. And I challenge you to show where I want more government by stating that the government right NOW handing out money is causing problems for whites and blacks. I see it daily in my work with people. The government needs reduced not increased. We need incentives for better behavior not the opposite. You can make that false claim all day long but that won't make it true. Also you just said "the government needs to formulate a plan". The problem is the government has formulated too many plans already and they are all disasters.
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(10-12-2019, 12:34 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 12:23 PM)zigbee Wrote: (10-12-2019, 12:20 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 12:14 PM)zigbee Wrote: (10-12-2019, 11:49 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: Yeah, the current multicultural system, where the white majority is being replaced, and which will evolve into a socialist totalitarian dictatorship at some point, is working so well. So what is your plan zig to convince non-whites to embrace liberty and freedom instead of government and socialism? More money for Head Start? What is Fox News telling you? If you live long enough, even you will admit that a non-white majority, will be the ruination of America. First of all to say ALL Black or hispanic are bad people due to race is incorrect.  To say all white people are great is incorrect, too.
With that said, what is my plan?  I'm not trying to lay out any plan other than to say the government needs to formulate one to incentivize things and not reward bad behavior with more money. That began the problem back in the 60s.  I see how it impacts whites who won't work, are on drugs, have multiple children out of wedlock, etc. It's the same.
Well obviously no one is saying all non-whites are bad or all whites are great. That's just the usual straw man.  Hard to believe someone who claims to be a conservative wants big gubmint to step in with a new plan to fix the mess that they created in the first place by trying to make blacks equal to whites. LOL....riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...we see it daily on here with your posts. Please. And I challenge you to show where I want more government by stating that the government right NOW handing out money is causing problems for whites and blacks. I see it daily in my work with people. The government needs reduced not increased. We need incentives for better behavior not the opposite. You can make that false claim all day long but that won't make it true. Also you just said "the government needs to formulate a plan". The problem is the government has formulated too many plans already and they are all disasters. They do need to formulate a plan as what it does now is not working for either or all races. Doesn't mean to increase spending or new depts either. Means REDUCE and incentivize .
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(10-12-2019, 12:57 PM)zigbee Wrote: (10-12-2019, 12:34 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 12:23 PM)zigbee Wrote: (10-12-2019, 12:20 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 12:14 PM)zigbee Wrote: First of all to say ALL Black or hispanic are bad people due to race is incorrect.  To say all white people are great is incorrect, too.
With that said, what is my plan?  I'm not trying to lay out any plan other than to say the government needs to formulate one to incentivize things and not reward bad behavior with more money. That began the problem back in the 60s.  I see how it impacts whites who won't work, are on drugs, have multiple children out of wedlock, etc. It's the same.
Well obviously no one is saying all non-whites are bad or all whites are great. That's just the usual straw man.  Hard to believe someone who claims to be a conservative wants big gubmint to step in with a new plan to fix the mess that they created in the first place by trying to make blacks equal to whites. LOL....riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...we see it daily on here with your posts. Please. And I challenge you to show where I want more government by stating that the government right NOW handing out money is causing problems for whites and blacks. I see it daily in my work with people. The government needs reduced not increased. We need incentives for better behavior not the opposite. You can make that false claim all day long but that won't make it true. Also you just said "the government needs to formulate a plan". The problem is the government has formulated too many plans already and they are all disasters. They do need to formulate a plan as what it does now is not working for either or all races. Doesn't mean to increase spending or new depts either. Means REDUCE and incentivize .
Significant reduction in welfare handouts would result in riots and looting in every black area of the country.
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(10-12-2019, 01:03 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 12:57 PM)zigbee Wrote: (10-12-2019, 12:34 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (10-12-2019, 12:23 PM)zigbee Wrote: (10-12-2019, 12:20 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: Well obviously no one is saying all non-whites are bad or all whites are great. That's just the usual straw man.  Hard to believe someone who claims to be a conservative wants big gubmint to step in with a new plan to fix the mess that they created in the first place by trying to make blacks equal to whites. LOL....riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...we see it daily on here with your posts. Please. And I challenge you to show where I want more government by stating that the government right NOW handing out money is causing problems for whites and blacks. I see it daily in my work with people. The government needs reduced not increased. We need incentives for better behavior not the opposite. You can make that false claim all day long but that won't make it true. Also you just said "the government needs to formulate a plan". The problem is the government has formulated too many plans already and they are all disasters. They do need to formulate a plan as what it does now is not working for either or all races. Doesn't mean to increase spending or new depts either. Means REDUCE and incentivize .
Significant reduction in welfare handouts would result in riots and looting in every black area of the country. Ok, sure.
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