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Trump loses fight to keep tax records secret.
#16
Besides the numbered claims, the graphic also states that Obama has been endorsed by the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). Itâ€s true that the Communist Party USA supports Obama. It claims to have about 2,000 members. Obama didnâ€t seek the CPUSA endorsement, nor has he endorsed that group.   LOL...from the link on factcheck.org...just can't make this stuff up!! Big Grin
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#17
(10-07-2019, 05:17 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 04:20 PM)cincydawg Wrote: https://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas...d-records/

Of course some believe FB memes over factcheck.com, which is fine, but I believe their analysis is correct.

Sure, but the truth wasn't going to impact Obama's election/re-election like BS memes would.

What truth is that? This article is dumb, written by left wing partisans playing word games. His records WERE sealed, sealed by Barack Hussein Obama himself. He could have released any of them, but chose not to. Why?

1. Birth certificate. He deliberately withheld this to very late because it was a political weapon he could use to his advantage against the moronic crazies who pushed the issue. 
2. Transcipts. This would have been embarrassing, but not disqualifying as they undoubtedly showed he was a mediocre student, i.e., a dumbass. But we've elected mediocre students before.
3. Financial aid forms. I theorize this was the problematic item for him, as he likely claimed to be a foreign student, i.e., he scammed the system to save some money. I think had this been discovered this may have swung one, maybe both of his elections against him.

This is my best guess anyway, of course I could be wrong. But for this article to imply Obama was forthcoming about his past is disingenuous, to say the least. Not surprised pitch fell for it, but I expected more from cincy.
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#18
(10-07-2019, 05:31 PM)zigbee Wrote: I could go on ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ but the link just makes excuses for things not released.  My choice of words from the meme was wrong in saying  SEALED.  Not released..hehe

And your opinion on Trump not releasing his taxes...?
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#19
(10-07-2019, 06:16 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 05:31 PM)zigbee Wrote: I could go on ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ but the link just makes excuses for things not released.  My choice of words from the meme was wrong in saying  SEALED.  Not released..hehe

And your opinion on Trump not releasing his taxes...?
What does that have to do with anything?  I said he (Obama) hasn't released much and it's true.  What's your opinion of Obama not releasing what I listed?  Same question pretty much.  Was I right or wrong?
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#20
(10-07-2019, 05:40 PM)Beastdog Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 05:17 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 04:20 PM)cincydawg Wrote: https://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas...d-records/

Of course some believe FB memes over factcheck.com, which is fine, but I believe their analysis is correct.

Sure, but the truth wasn't going to impact Obama's election/re-election like BS memes would.

What truth is that? This article is dumb, written by left wing partisans playing word games. His records WERE sealed, sealed by Barack Hussein Obama himself.

Which clearly isn't the implication made by the meme, as we both know.

He could have released any of them, but chose not to. Why?

Probably for the same reason other Presidents, like Bush, didn't release records. 

1. Birth certificate. He deliberately withheld this to very late because it was a political weapon he could use to his advantage against the moronic crazies who pushed the issue. 

Ok, that's his option and a political strategy to screw with Republicans.

2. Transcipts. This would have been embarrassing, but not disqualifying as they undoubtedly showed he was a mediocre student, i.e., a dumbass. But we've elected mediocre students before.

That's what you want to believe but,  since we haven't seen his transcripts, you're really just making ***** up.

3. Financial aid forms. I theorize this was the problematic item for him, as he likely claimed to be a foreign student, i.e., he scammed the system to save some money. I think had this been discovered this may have swung one, maybe both of his elections against him.

Well, you can theorize that Obama was actually a Russian spy or a lizard wrapped in human skin, so theorize away....

This is my best guess anyway, of course I could be wrong. But for this article to imply Obama was forthcoming about his past is disingenuous, to say the least. Not surprised pitch fell for it, but I expected more from cincy.

The article was very clear on its intent: make it clear that it wasn'ta court/judgesealing anything.  Did you read the very beginning of the article at all?
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#21
(10-07-2019, 06:19 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 06:16 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 05:31 PM)zigbee Wrote: I could go on ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ but the link just makes excuses for things not released.  My choice of words from the meme was wrong in saying  SEALED.  Not released..hehe

And your opinion on Trump not releasing his taxes...?
What does that have to do with anything?  I said he (Obama) hasn't released much and it's true.  What's your opinion of Obama not releasing what I listed?  Same question pretty much.  Was I right or wrong?

When you say "makes excuses" it gives the impression that you have an issue with Obama not releasing things.  If that isn't the case, then there's no issue.
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#22
(10-07-2019, 05:38 PM)zigbee Wrote: Besides the numbered claims, the graphic also states that Obama has been endorsed by the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). Itâ€s true that the Communist Party USA supports Obama. It claims to have about 2,000 members. Obama didnâ€t seek the CPUSA endorsement, nor has he endorsed that group.   LOL...from the link on factcheck.org...just can't make this stuff up!! Big Grin

And it's true the the KKK endorses the Republican candidate basically every 4 years.  You can't force someone to NOT endorse you.
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#23
(10-07-2019, 06:26 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 06:19 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 06:16 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 05:31 PM)zigbee Wrote: I could go on ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ but the link just makes excuses for things not released.  My choice of words from the meme was wrong in saying  SEALED.  Not released..hehe

And your opinion on Trump not releasing his taxes...?
What does that have to do with anything?  I said he (Obama) hasn't released much and it's true.  What's your opinion of Obama not releasing what I listed?  Same question pretty much.  Was I right or wrong?

When you say "makes excuses" it gives the impression that you have an issue with Obama not releasing things.  If that isn't the case, then there's no issue.
I said the LINK makes excuses...is that true or not?  Was I right or wrong?  What's your opinion of Obama NOT releasing this stuff?
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#24
(10-07-2019, 06:27 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 05:38 PM)zigbee Wrote: Besides the numbered claims, the graphic also states that Obama has been endorsed by the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). Itâ€s true that the Communist Party USA supports Obama. It claims to have about 2,000 members. Obama didnâ€t seek the CPUSA endorsement, nor has he endorsed that group.   LOL...from the link on factcheck.org...just can't make this stuff up!! Big Grin

And it's true the the KKK endorses the Republican candidate basically every 4 years.  You can't force someone to NOT endorse you.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-d...tt-1318365
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#25
(10-07-2019, 06:52 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 06:27 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 05:38 PM)zigbee Wrote: Besides the numbered claims, the graphic also states that Obama has been endorsed by the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). Itâ€s true that the Communist Party USA supports Obama. It claims to have about 2,000 members. Obama didnâ€t seek the CPUSA endorsement, nor has he endorsed that group.   LOL...from the link on factcheck.org...just can't make this stuff up!! Big Grin

And it's true the the KKK endorses the Republican candidate basically every 4 years.  You can't force someone to NOT endorse you.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-d...tt-1318365

Well, David Duke ( R ) is a former KKK member and clearly doesn't speak for the KKK.
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#26
(10-07-2019, 07:18 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 06:52 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 06:27 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 05:38 PM)zigbee Wrote: Besides the numbered claims, the graphic also states that Obama has been endorsed by the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). Itâ€s true that the Communist Party USA supports Obama. It claims to have about 2,000 members. Obama didnâ€t seek the CPUSA endorsement, nor has he endorsed that group.   LOL...from the link on factcheck.org...just can't make this stuff up!! Big Grin

And it's true the the KKK endorses the Republican candidate basically every 4 years.  You can't force someone to NOT endorse you.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-d...tt-1318365

Well, David Duke ( R ) is a former KKK member and clearly doesn't speak for the KKK.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#27
Obama did not seal anything, that was my point.

He didn't release a lot of stuff, but that isn't unusual for Presidents either.

The phrase "Obama sealed his records" suggests Obama DID something actively, which is incorrect.

I think Trump will lose this tax record thing in court.  His logic is not valid in my view.
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#28
(10-07-2019, 06:51 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 06:26 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 06:19 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 06:16 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 05:31 PM)zigbee Wrote: I could go on ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ but the link just makes excuses for things not released.  My choice of words from the meme was wrong in saying  SEALED.  Not released..hehe

And your opinion on Trump not releasing his taxes...?
What does that have to do with anything?  I said he (Obama) hasn't released much and it's true.  What's your opinion of Obama not releasing what I listed?  Same question pretty much.  Was I right or wrong?

When you say "makes excuses" it gives the impression that you have an issue with Obama not releasing things.  If that isn't the case, then there's no issue.
I said the LINK makes excuses...is that true or not?  Was I right or wrong?  What's your opinion of Obama NOT releasing this stuff?

Like I said, when you use the phrase makes excuses it implies that you have an issue with it.

I think presidents should have to release anything that would directly impact their eligibility to to run for president. Beyond that, they don't have to release anything and voters can take that into consideration however they like.
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