The "Justice" system

[BoyGenius]

Criminal history has no bearing on determining guilty/not guilty... but it is extremely relevant when determining the punishment of a person found to be guilty. Mr Mills had multiple chances to peacefully "integrate" back into society. He failed miserably.

[Hightop77]

Donny Mills has killed nobody , yet will spend the rest of his life in prison. A police officer walks into another man's home, murders him, and gets a hug from the judge and a 10-year sentence.

Another example of your dishonesty.  One is a career criminal with a 40 year history and one is a cop who made one horrible mistake and is going to now pay the price.  If she gets out in 10 years and enters a permanent life of crime, she too be sentenced with her past in mind.  This is why your credibility registers at zero.

I would just love for you to tell me what was dishonest about my post.

Seriously?  I just explained how they are not the same thing.  One is a career criminal and one is a law abiding citizen who committed one criminal act.

[P1tchblack]

Donny Mills has killed nobody , yet will spend the rest of his life in prison. A police officer walks into another man's home, murders him, and gets a hug from the judge and a 10-year sentence.

Another example of your dishonesty.  One is a career criminal with a 40 year history and one is a cop who made one horrible mistake and is going to now pay the price.  If she gets out in 10 years and enters a permanent life of crime, she too be sentenced with her past in mind.  This is why your credibility registers at zero.

I would just love for you to tell me what was dishonest about my post.

Seriously?  I just explained how they are not the same thing.  One is a career criminal and one is a law abiding citizen who committed one criminal act.

Did I ever say they were the same thing?

Do you think 10 years , if she even served the whole thing, in prison is a fair sentence for going into somebody's home and murdering them?

[cincydawg]

I was present at neither trial of course, and am not familiar with the law in either case, so I don't really have an opinion.

At times, there are extenuating circumstances not revealed in some partial copy and paste job.

[jmesser1982]

Donny Mills has killed nobody , yet will spend the rest of his life in prison. A police officer walks into another man's home, murders him, and gets a hug from the judge and a 10-year sentence.

Another example of your dishonesty.  One is a career criminal with a 40 year history and one is a cop who made one horrible mistake and is going to now pay the price.  If she gets out in 10 years and enters a permanent life of crime, she too be sentenced with her past in mind.  This is why your credibility registers at zero.

I would just love for you to tell me what was dishonest about my post.

Seriously?  I just explained how they are not the same thing.  One is a career criminal and one is a law abiding citizen who committed one criminal act.

Did I ever say they were the same thing?

Do you think 10 years in prison is a fair sentence for going into somebody's home and murdering them?

More than fair. The guys own brother said he wished she did not have to serve any time. Hopefully she gets out early.

[3rdgensooner]

He won't stop being a felon so he's segregated. Prison isn't and shouldn't be punishment. It's to keep scum away from decent people. If they can stop being scum when let out then fine. If not then send them back and leave them there. Not punishment. It's for the benefit of decent people.

[Hightop77]

Donny Mills has killed nobody , yet will spend the rest of his life in prison. A police officer walks into another man's home, murders him, and gets a hug from the judge and a 10-year sentence.

Another example of your dishonesty.  One is a career criminal with a 40 year history and one is a cop who made one horrible mistake and is going to now pay the price.  If she gets out in 10 years and enters a permanent life of crime, she too be sentenced with her past in mind.  This is why your credibility registers at zero.

I would just love for you to tell me what was dishonest about my post.

Seriously?  I just explained how they are not the same thing.  One is a career criminal and one is a law abiding citizen who committed one criminal act.

Did I ever say they were the same thing?

Do you think 10 years , if she even served the whole thing, in prison is a fair sentence for going into somebody's home and murdering them?

The thread is about the inequity of the two sentences as if they are similar crimes.  It was not premeditated murder.  I think it was a lot closer to manslaughter than murder.  If she had a prior history of violent criminal behavior she would have never received such a favorable sentence.  There is no reason to believe she, unlike Mills, will be a threat to society in the future.  You have to be seriously warped to not see the difference in her and Mills.

[zigbee]

Pitch is just mad he didn't get to kick the officer

[Alabuckeye]

I guess, although I'm unable to be sure, Pitch's point is that he doesn't like repeat offender laws. That he thinks that each incursion into the justice system should be viewed totally independently with no consideration of anything other than what happened specifically in that case.

[P1tchblack]

Another example of your dishonesty.  One is a career criminal with a 40 year history and one is a cop who made one horrible mistake and is going to now pay the price.  If she gets out in 10 years and enters a permanent life of crime, she too be sentenced with her past in mind.  This is why your credibility registers at zero.

I would just love for you to tell me what was dishonest about my post.

Seriously?  I just explained how they are not the same thing.  One is a career criminal and one is a law abiding citizen who committed one criminal act.

Did I ever say they were the same thing?

Do you think 10 years , if she even served the whole thing, in prison is a fair sentence for going into somebody's home and murdering them?

The thread is about the inequity of the two sentences as if they are similar crimes. 

The thread is about inequity of two sentence RELATIVE to the crimes committed.

It was not premeditated murder.  I think it was a lot closer to manslaughter than murder. 

Can I assume you'd think the same if a non-cop walked into your house and murdered someone in your family?


If she had a prior history of violent criminal behavior she would have never received such a favorable sentence.  There is no reason to believe she, unlike Mills, will be a threat to society in the future. 

Which changes nothing as far as an innocent person being dead.

You have to be seriously warped to not see the difference in her and Mills.

For the second, maybe third, time, I never said there wasn't a difference.  Mills has a history of relatively minor crimes, none of which involves taking an innocent person's life, in their own home. The fact that he dared to touch a member of a "protected  class" (barely) is why he's in prison for life, not because of a dwi.

[Hightop77]

I would just love for you to tell me what was dishonest about my post.

Seriously?  I just explained how they are not the same thing.  One is a career criminal and one is a law abiding citizen who committed one criminal act.

Did I ever say they were the same thing?

Do you think 10 years , if she even served the whole thing, in prison is a fair sentence for going into somebody's home and murdering them?

The thread is about the inequity of the two sentences as if they are similar crimes. 

The thread is about inequity of two sentence RELATIVE to the crimes committed.

Same thing I said.

It was not premeditated murder.  I think it was a lot closer to manslaughter than murder. 

Can I assume you'd think the same if a non-cop walked into your house and murdered someone in your family?

If someone came in like she did, they would more likely be the one shot and killed.

If she had a prior history of violent criminal behavior she would have never received such a favorable sentence.  There is no reason to believe she, unlike Mills, will be a threat to society in the future. 

Which changes nothing as far as an innocent person being dead.

Makes a big difference in the sentencing though.

You have to be seriously warped to not see the difference in her and Mills.

For the second, maybe third, time, I never said there wasn't a difference.  Mills has a history of relatively minor crimes, none of which involves taking an innocent person's life, in their own home. The fact that he dared to touch a member of a "protected  class" (barely) is why he's in prison for life, not because of a dwi.

They weren't "minor crimes".

[dunefan]

Donny Mills has killed nobody , yet will spend the rest of his life in prison. A police officer walks into another man's home, murders him, and gets a hug from the judge and a 10-year sentence.

when you abuse facts and ignore other facts, you end up with the opinions you hold.

I haven't ignored anyting.

Yes you have.

[P1tchblack]

Seriously?  I just explained how they are not the same thing.  One is a career criminal and one is a law abiding citizen who committed one criminal act.

Did I ever say they were the same thing?

Do you think 10 years , if she even served the whole thing, in prison is a fair sentence for going into somebody's home and murdering them?

The thread is about the inequity of the two sentences as if they are similar crimes. 

The thread is about inequity of two sentence RELATIVE to the crimes committed.

Same thing I said.

It was not premeditated murder.  I think it was a lot closer to manslaughter than murder. 

Can I assume you'd think the same if a non-cop walked into your house and murdered someone in your family?

If someone came in like she did, they would more likely be the one shot and killed.



If she had a prior history of violent criminal behavior she would have never received such a favorable sentence.  There is no reason to believe she, unlike Mills, will be a threat to society in the future. 

Which changes nothing as far as an innocent person being dead.

Makes a big difference in the sentencing though.

You have to be seriously warped to not see the difference in her and Mills.

For the second, maybe third, time, I never said there wasn't a difference.  Mills has a history of relatively minor crimes, none of which involves taking an innocent person's life, in their own home. The fact that he dared to touch a member of a "protected  class" (barely) is why he's in prison for life, not because of a dwi.

They weren't "minor crimes".

Most of them were minor crimes....if he was white.  Compared to murder they're all minor.  And, as has been proven multiple times, in two threads today alone, cops are a protected class.  I wonder how many non-cops have gotten a hug from the judge for the level of incompetence shown by cop.

[Hightop77]

Did I ever say they were the same thing?

Do you think 10 years , if she even served the whole thing, in prison is a fair sentence for going into somebody's home and murdering them?

The thread is about the inequity of the two sentences as if they are similar crimes. 

The thread is about inequity of two sentence RELATIVE to the crimes committed.

Same thing I said.

It was not premeditated murder.  I think it was a lot closer to manslaughter than murder. 

Can I assume you'd think the same if a non-cop walked into your house and murdered someone in your family?

If someone came in like she did, they would more likely be the one shot and killed.



If she had a prior history of violent criminal behavior she would have never received such a favorable sentence.  There is no reason to believe she, unlike Mills, will be a threat to society in the future. 

Which changes nothing as far as an innocent person being dead.

Makes a big difference in the sentencing though.

You have to be seriously warped to not see the difference in her and Mills.

For the second, maybe third, time, I never said there wasn't a difference.  Mills has a history of relatively minor crimes, none of which involves taking an innocent person's life, in their own home. The fact that he dared to touch a member of a "protected  class" (barely) is why he's in prison for life, not because of a dwi.

They weren't "minor crimes".

Most of them were minor crimes....if he was white.  Compared to murder they're all minor.  And, as has been proven multiple times, in two threads today alone, cops are a protected class.  I wonder how many non-cops have gotten a hug from the judge for the level of incompetence shown by cop.

This was not Mills†first run-in with the law. He has been to prison for drugs, burglary, aggravated assault on a public servant and felony DWI.

"He has a 40-year criminal history going back starting in 1979 with his first DWI, and he has been to the penitentiary for five different felonies," said Assistant District Attorney Don Hoover.

[P1tchblack]

The thread is about the inequity of the two sentences as if they are similar crimes. 

The thread is about inequity of two sentence RELATIVE to the crimes committed.

Same thing I said.

It was not premeditated murder.  I think it was a lot closer to manslaughter than murder. 

Can I assume you'd think the same if a non-cop walked into your house and murdered someone in your family?

If someone came in like she did, they would more likely be the one shot and killed.



If she had a prior history of violent criminal behavior she would have never received such a favorable sentence.  There is no reason to believe she, unlike Mills, will be a threat to society in the future. 

Which changes nothing as far as an innocent person being dead.

Makes a big difference in the sentencing though.

You have to be seriously warped to not see the difference in her and Mills.

For the second, maybe third, time, I never said there wasn't a difference.  Mills has a history of relatively minor crimes, none of which involves taking an innocent person's life, in their own home. The fact that he dared to touch a member of a "protected  class" (barely) is why he's in prison for life, not because of a dwi.

They weren't "minor crimes".

Most of them were minor crimes....if he was white.  Compared to murder they're all minor.  And, as has been proven multiple times, in two threads today alone, cops are a protected class.  I wonder how many non-cops have gotten a hug from the judge for the level of incompetence shown by cop.

This was not Mills†first run-in with the law. He has been to prison for drugs, burglary, aggravated assault on a public servant and felony DWI.

"He has a 40-year criminal history going back starting in 1979 with his first DWI, and he has been to the penitentiary for five different felonies," said Assistant District Attorney Don Hoover.

drugs, burglary, aggravated assault on a public servant and felony DWI.

Right. Other than agg assault, they're minor.