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(09-30-2019, 10:33 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:23 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:21 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:19 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:16 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: I would take a proven "washed up" Riggleman over a completely unproven Bell who we know got the job based on nothing but his name. A good manager could have done much more with this team. He won more than wriggleman with far less offense bad year form closer.  Wriggleman is washed up.
Riggleman would have been at least .500 with this roster. Lol.... sure. Iâ€ve gone over the roster which changed losing several players from Gennett to Winker etc.
Reds didn't have a single starting pitcher last year with an ERA under 4.30. This year they had 4 of them with their starting core at 2.87, 3.40, and 3.89. Bell was so bad, so bad. And front office brought them in and bell won more.  Thanks. Â
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With Bell watching the post-season on tv.
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(09-30-2019, 10:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:33 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:23 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:21 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:19 AM)zigbee Wrote: He won more than wriggleman with far less offense bad year form closer. Â Wriggleman is washed up.
Riggleman would have been at least .500 with this roster. Lol.... sure. Iâ€ve gone over the roster which changed losing several players from Gennett to Winker etc.
Reds didn't have a single starting pitcher last year with an ERA under 4.30. This year they had 4 of them with their starting core at 2.87, 3.40, and 3.89. Bell was so bad, so bad. And front office brought them in and bell won more.  Thanks. Â
where is riggleman  now?
If you Reds fans are happy with the product, that works for me. I watch the Reds because all their games are on here and I like the broadcasting crew. If you guys are satisfied being loooooosers, then have at it.
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(09-30-2019, 10:53 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:33 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:23 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:21 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: Riggleman would have been at least .500 with this roster. Lol.... sure. Iâ€ve gone over the roster which changed losing several players from Gennett to Winker etc.
Reds didn't have a single starting pitcher last year with an ERA under 4.30. This year they had 4 of them with their starting core at 2.87, 3.40, and 3.89. Bell was so bad, so bad. And front office brought them in and bell won more.  Thanks. Â
where is riggleman  now?
If you Reds fans are happy with the product, that works for me. I watch the Reds because all their games are on here and I like the broadcasting crew. If you guys are satisfied being loooooosers, then have at it. No one is satisfied at all. You don't win it all with players hurt and so forth the next year in the least but Bell did better than Riggleman....which is my question to you. Where is Riggleman managing right now?
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(09-30-2019, 11:21 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:53 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:33 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:23 AM)zigbee Wrote: Lol.... sure. Iâ€ve gone over the roster which changed losing several players from Gennett to Winker etc.
Reds didn't have a single starting pitcher last year with an ERA under 4.30. This year they had 4 of them with their starting core at 2.87, 3.40, and 3.89. Bell was so bad, so bad. And front office brought them in and bell won more.  Thanks. Â
where is riggleman  now?
If you Reds fans are happy with the product, that works for me. I watch the Reds because all their games are on here and I like the broadcasting crew. If you guys are satisfied being loooooosers, then have at it. No one is satisfied at all. You don't win it all with players hurt and so forth the next year in the least but Bell did better than Riggleman....which is my question to you. Where is Riggleman managing right now?
I didn't say Riggleman is managing anywhere and I didn't even say he was the best option for the Reds this year. I did say or at least strongly imply that retaining Riggleman would have been a better option than hiring Bell and he would have won more games for sure.
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(09-30-2019, 11:25 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:21 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:53 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:33 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: Reds didn't have a single starting pitcher last year with an ERA under 4.30. This year they had 4 of them with their starting core at 2.87, 3.40, and 3.89. Bell was so bad, so bad. And front office brought them in and bell won more.  Thanks. Â
where is riggleman  now?
If you Reds fans are happy with the product, that works for me. I watch the Reds because all their games are on here and I like the broadcasting crew. If you guys are satisfied being loooooosers, then have at it. No one is satisfied at all. You don't win it all with players hurt and so forth the next year in the least but Bell did better than Riggleman....which is my question to you. Where is Riggleman managing right now?
I didn't say Riggleman is managing anywhere and I didn't even say he was the best option for the Reds this year. I did say or at least strongly imply that retaining Riggleman would have been a better option than hiring Bell and he would have won more games for sure. Can't see it at all. Riggleman is washed up and no one wants him.
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(09-30-2019, 11:28 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:25 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:21 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:53 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: And front office brought them in and bell won more. Â Thanks. Â
where is riggleman  now?
If you Reds fans are happy with the product, that works for me. I watch the Reds because all their games are on here and I like the broadcasting crew. If you guys are satisfied being loooooosers, then have at it. No one is satisfied at all. You don't win it all with players hurt and so forth the next year in the least but Bell did better than Riggleman....which is my question to you. Where is Riggleman managing right now?
I didn't say Riggleman is managing anywhere and I didn't even say he was the best option for the Reds this year. I did say or at least strongly imply that retaining Riggleman would have been a better option than hiring Bell and he would have won more games for sure. Can't see it at all. Riggleman is washed up and no one wants him.
Still better than Bell. No one wants him either and he has no accomplishments at all as a manager other than getting thrown out of games.
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(09-30-2019, 11:31 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:28 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:25 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:21 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 10:53 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: If you Reds fans are happy with the product, that works for me. I watch the Reds because all their games are on here and I like the broadcasting crew. If you guys are satisfied being loooooosers, then have at it. No one is satisfied at all. You don't win it all with players hurt and so forth the next year in the least but Bell did better than Riggleman....which is my question to you. Where is Riggleman managing right now?
I didn't say Riggleman is managing anywhere and I didn't even say he was the best option for the Reds this year. I did say or at least strongly imply that retaining Riggleman would have been a better option than hiring Bell and he would have won more games for sure. Can't see it at all. Riggleman is washed up and no one wants him.
Still better than Bell. No one wants him either and he has no accomplishments at all as a manager other than getting thrown out of games. He's been apart of many teams and is a young guy as first year manager so your opinion of him is just that. He won more than Riggleman so there's that so to speak as well. Reds wanted Bell as well and he interviewed with other clubs, too. No one hired Price to manage either and I doubt Hurdle or Maddon gets a manager job this winter.  Teams are looking toward younger men.
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(09-30-2019, 11:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:31 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:28 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:25 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:21 AM)zigbee Wrote: No one is satisfied at all. You don't win it all with players hurt and so forth the next year in the least but Bell did better than Riggleman....which is my question to you. Where is Riggleman managing right now?
I didn't say Riggleman is managing anywhere and I didn't even say he was the best option for the Reds this year. I did say or at least strongly imply that retaining Riggleman would have been a better option than hiring Bell and he would have won more games for sure. Can't see it at all. Riggleman is washed up and no one wants him.
Still better than Bell. No one wants him either and he has no accomplishments at all as a manager other than getting thrown out of games. He's been apart of many teams and is a young guy as first year manager so your opinion of him is just that. He won more than Riggleman so there's that so to speak as well. Reds wanted Bell as well and he interviewed with other clubs, too. No one hired Price to manage either and I doubt Hurdle or Maddon gets a manager job this winter.  Teams are looking toward younger men.
Saying Bell won more games than Riggleman because Riggleman managed fewer games is a joke, right? Even with a much better roster and infinitely better starting pitching, Bell won at about the same rate as Riggleman. Riggleman took over a dumpster fire in Cinti that started 3-15 and immediately turned them into a competitive team that was fun to watch. Could Bell have done that? No rational person would say so.
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(09-30-2019, 11:43 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:31 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:28 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:25 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: I didn't say Riggleman is managing anywhere and I didn't even say he was the best option for the Reds this year. I did say or at least strongly imply that retaining Riggleman would have been a better option than hiring Bell and he would have won more games for sure. Can't see it at all. Riggleman is washed up and no one wants him.
Still better than Bell. No one wants him either and he has no accomplishments at all as a manager other than getting thrown out of games. He's been apart of many teams and is a young guy as first year manager so your opinion of him is just that. He won more than Riggleman so there's that so to speak as well. Reds wanted Bell as well and he interviewed with other clubs, too. No one hired Price to manage either and I doubt Hurdle or Maddon gets a manager job this winter.  Teams are looking toward younger men.
Saying Bell won more games than Riggleman because Riggleman managed fewer games is a joke, right? Even with a much better roster and infinitely better starting pitching, Bell won at about the same rate as Riggleman. Riggleman took over a dumpster fire in Cinti that started 3-15 and immediately turned them into a competitive team that was fun to watch. Could Bell have done that? No rational person would say so. Riggleman took over a dumpster fire and Bell didn't??? LOL , ok, sure.
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