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All Things William Barr Trump-Russia Thread
Recap of some information

2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat...story.html

2018
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/409817...ier-before
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PerkinsCoie law firm is the black box law firm hired by the DNC through Mark Elias whoâ€s is a Political Law specialist and partner at the firm. Black box meaning they are retained with attorney client protection. They make payments to Fusion GPS /Simpson. Simpson hires Steele to craft dirt on Trump from Russian sources. Itâ€s mostly garbage gossip material. Apparently Sidney Blumenthal possibly assisted in information in addition to the dossier

We have FBI General Counsel Baker meeting with Perkins Coie lawyer Sussman before the FISC application process.

Usually Oppo research is a gathering information to campaign against. However there is a coordination to disseminate this misinformation in a circular fashion through political leaders Harryâ€s Reid and John McCain and push to several media outlets to create the illusion that this is real and credible information so as to warrant spying. But who crafted and authorized the circular push?

Then you have paid human operatives to bait Papodopolus to travel outside to gather information and entrap him which was Italian asset Mifsud and a subsequent meeting with Aussie Alex Downer who relates information to the FBI which apparently launched the FISA warrantsAlso is Stefan Halper and Carter Page

We have top level meeting with Brennan Clapper Comey and one other NSA person I believe , so this was a coordinated effort or possible coup.

Then you have Comey setting up Flynn with Strozk and another agent with the NSA spying on his phone calls to Kislyak already known

We have massive unmaskings of NSA data by Brennan Rice and Powers almost in a daily basis

The Mueller investigation was really the Weissman investigation. Weissman ran the entire operation. He also met with Steele in London
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/spygate-or...25077.html
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https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/05/j...stigation/
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/spygate-th...33074.html
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Interesting stuff.  Canâ€t wait for cincy to give his official meh, nothing here posts
Make America Honest Again
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ANOTHER WHOPPER OF A MUELLER MISREPRESENTATION

Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source... https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/...department

Muller's team portrayed Ukrainian businessman Konstantin Kilimnik, who worked for Paul Manafort, as a man with ties to Russian intelligence. But hundreds of pages of government documents describe Kilimnik as a “sensitive” intelligence source for the U.S. State Department who informed on Ukrainian and Russian matters... going back to at least 2013 while he was still working for Manafort.  Kilimnik was not just any run-of-the-mill source, either.

It's a rather fascinating read...
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There IS "nothing here" until someone gets charged with a crime. Everyone can speculate endlessly about who did what, fine with me, but until someone is charged, it's all like Trump and obstruction, maybe so, but until he's impeached, it means nothing beyond some political optics.

Political optics can be useful of course, but in general they confirm what folks want to believe rather than change minds. What liberal is going to click on those sites?
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https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/...y-dossier/
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There it is^^^^^^^.  Thanks, didnâ€t take long
Make America Honest Again
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These links, which I barely scanned, to me look like a Glenn Beck attempt to connect dots, not some dispassionate analysis based on known facts, they are just vague linkages on supposition written to feed those already convinced of wrong doing here.

Maybe there was, it's possible, but the known FACTS remain thin once you strip out all the smoke and suggestions and probables.

Anyway, if some journalist can string this together and IF it's real, much of it, the DoJ should be able to do the same thing and bring charges and crimes. My GUESS is the odds of criminal charges being brought against folks whose names we know are 20% or so.

Of course, I can't be wrong saying 20% or 35% or anything between 0% and 100%.
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(06-07-2019, 08:37 AM)cincydawg Wrote: These links, which I barely scanned, to me look like a Glenn Beck attempt to connect dots, not some dispassionate analysis based on known facts, they are just vague linkages on supposition written to feed those already convinced of wrong doing here.

Maybe there was, it's possible, but the known FACTS remain thin once you strip out all the smoke and suggestions and probables.

Anyway, if some journalist can string this together and IF it's real, much of it, the DoJ should be able to do the same thing and bring charges and crimes.  My GUESS is the odds of criminal charges being brought against folks whose names we know are 20% or so.

Of course, I can't be wrong saying 20% or 35% or anything between 0% and 100%.

Would you least agree that this smoke is significantly more real than the Russia collusion smoke?  I mean there are at least text messages, paper trails, law firms, etc...  whereas there was nothing significant on the Trump collusion front.  They had the unverified dossier as their pretext to spy for #### sakes.  I would say there's a lot more here in comparison.
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