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All Things William Barr Trump-Russia Thread
(06-08-2019, 08:08 AM)BoyGenius Wrote:
(06-07-2019, 10:02 PM)BigDroppa Wrote: BoyGenius

When Steele testifies, do you think he admits to commingling information with a Shearer DossyA, which is speculated,  passed to state Dept. Winer from Sidney Blumenthal and added to the final Steele DossyA?  

Itâ€s possible. Lot of blowback if true

I'll wait and see happens with Steele... confidence is low that anything significant will occur.

YEP.....Its all gonna SLOWLY Just Go Away
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(06-08-2019, 08:36 AM)AkronBuck Wrote:
(06-08-2019, 08:08 AM)BoyGenius Wrote: I'll wait and see happens with Steele... confidence is low that anything significant will occur.

YEP.....Its all gonna SLOWLY Just Go Away

If the evidence we have all heard of is true, people MUST pay a high penalty for this.  They MUST, otherwise we are now in a free for all.  This cannot be allowed to go unchecked.  If Paul Manafort's azz is now rotting in Rikers for unrelated crap that all those clowns routinely do, THIS stuff must be paid for.  It has to be.  Say what you will about Sean Hannity, but he's locked onto this like a dog on a soup bone.  He and his known sources have come this far, so there is no way they can let go now.  Someone's (plural) azz needs to go to jail, and it damn well better.  

Now don't get me wrong, my confidence level is more or less in line with you guys, but when you sit back and take it all in?  There has to be a price paid for this, otherwise...  we are officially in Thunderdome.
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When you have a prosecutor like Durham not some Senate body asking questions or Horowitz, people will talk and stories have to jive. Steele is the first guy on the totem pole. He will have to answer who what when etc. With Federal prosecutors, they throw the book at you and you face decades in jail or cooperate. (Itâ€s really unfair and excessive).  Did Steel have a motive and show intent ? You bet he did and itâ€s documented. He will not be able to hide behind some MI5 patriotic label.

So if Weissman can charge  Russians, who bought identities from some guy in NY singed up on FB and paid for FB ads saying vote Hillary vote Trump because,  thats hugely interfering in an election , ( the US never does that ) donâ€t you think Steeleâ€s misinformation campaign and efforts to peddle his dope to media , politicians and LE to swing voters in the US and is the genesis of a potential coup, gonna be treated as, hey we know you were looking out for us?  Thanks a lot. Our great men and women at FBI appreciated it. Well throw in a good word to the Queen 

Steel will be charged with a crime and face incarceration. British Intel will want to disown the guy. Simpson will be next on the list. Thatâ€s how prosecutors work upwards starting at the bottom and squeezing guys to give up the goods. 93% conviction rate
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Steele lives in England. If we assume he has any sense, he may "agree" to testify, and then not do it, or do it in absentia, or give written responses, whatever. I don't know if he broke US law, but he should be very chary about that and stay in England. He does not HAVE to testify, why would he?

British Intel can disown the guy is they want, it does not impact him at all.
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(06-08-2019, 01:01 PM)cincydawg Wrote: Steele lives in England.  If we assume he has any sense, he may "agree" to testify, and then not do it, or do it in absentia, or give written responses, whatever.  I don't know if he broke US law, but he should be very chary about that and stay in England.  He does not HAVE to testify, why would he?

British Intel can disown the guy is they want, it does not impact him at all.


Yeah when I heard he agreed to testify, my immediate reaction was that he was *not* going to testify.  

Same with Mueller.  We heard the last of him.  A drive by character assassination of a report, and he gone
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I'll tell ya what, I will know ***** is about to go down when I hear about people leaving the country, committing "suicide," getting murdered in "botched robbery attempts," and some actually comimitting actual suicide.  That's when we'll know for sure that ***** is really getting real.
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The Mueller report is turning out to be as truthful as the Steele dossier.

A DOJ court filing shows that the FBI actually began spying on Michael Flynn in January 2016 rather than December 2016 as the FBI and the Mueller report maintain... Flynn had contact with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in both December 2015 and January 2016. Within days of Flynnâ€s January phone call to Kislyak, the spying began.

During Flynnâ€s January 24, 2017 FBI interview, he told agents Peter Strzok and Joe Pientka about these contacts. Although a redacted copy of the 302 report was released last December, Flynnâ€s remarks about his early contacts with Kislyak only appear on the unredacted 302 which was included in Thursdayâ€s DOJ court filing. (The 302 can be viewed here.)

Now we know why this information was redacted.

Flynn told Strzok and Pientka that he had “met with Kislyak at the Russian Ambassadorâ€s residence next to the University Club prior to traveling to Russia in December 2015.”  This visit is described in the 302 as a “courtesy call.” Flynn was scheduled to speak in Moscow at a Russia Today (RT) event about Middle East issues for which he was paid $45,000. He sat next to Putin at the dinner. The 302 indicated that “Flynn received an appropriate “threat briefing” from U.S. officials before attending.”

Flynn told the agents that he called Kislyak in January 2016 upon hearing of the death of “former GRU Director Igor Sergunâ€s death in Lebanon…to express his condolences” and note that Sergun was “someone the U.S. could work with.” Sergun died Jan. 3, 2016.”

Fox News†Gregg Re reports that several days after Flynnâ€s phone call to Kislyak, it became known that Flynn was informally advising the Trump campaign. FBI informant Stefan Halper “sprang into action” to spy on him. (Halper also contacted other members of Trumpâ€s campaign including Carter Page, George Papadopoulos and Sam Clovis several months later which was disclosed in May 2018.)

Halper contacted Russian academic and writer Svetlana Lokhova, who resides in London, to glean some information about Flynn.
In addition, Lokhova received a dinner party invitation from Christopher Andrew. He was a Cambridge professor and the official historian for MI5, the British domestic intelligence service, with whom she had co-written a book. The other invited guests were to be Halper and his wife. Lokhova was given a choice of two dates the next month.

Lokhova told Fox News, “It was very, very unusual because Stefan Halper and I, despite being part of the same group, and meeting pretty much in a public forum, weâ€ve had no personal contact at all. [Halper] to me was an obnoxious academic who absolutely hated all Russians.”

Up until now, it was thought that Flynnâ€s calls to Kislyak during the transition period in December 2016 had been the start of the FBIâ€s interest in Flynn. But this new information shows that it actually began in January 2016.

The Mueller report does not mention the spying activity which occurred earlier in 2016. Instead, they maintain that the FBIâ€s interest in Flynn began when his phone calls with Kislyak during the transition (December 2016) were discovered.

No surprise. Weâ€ve heard of three other instances where the Mueller report has omitted inconvenient information in the last week already. This is number four. Yes, I am counting.

https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaugh...t-reality/
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(06-08-2019, 02:00 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: The Mueller report is turning out to be as truthful as the Steele dossier.

A DOJ court filing shows that the FBI actually began spying on Michael Flynn in January 2016 rather than December 2016 as the FBI and the Mueller report maintain... Flynn had contact with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in both December 2015 and January 2016. Within days of Flynnâ€s January phone call to Kislyak, the spying began.

During Flynnâ€s January 24, 2017 FBI interview, he told agents Peter Strzok and Joe Pientka about these contacts. Although a redacted copy of the 302 report was released last December, Flynnâ€s remarks about his early contacts with Kislyak only appear on the unredacted 302 which was included in Thursdayâ€s DOJ court filing. (The 302 can be viewed here.)

Now we know why this information was redacted.

Flynn told Strzok and Pientka that he had “met with Kislyak at the Russian Ambassadorâ€s residence next to the University Club prior to traveling to Russia in December 2015.”  This visit is described in the 302 as a “courtesy call.” Flynn was scheduled to speak in Moscow at a Russia Today (RT) event about Middle East issues for which he was paid $45,000. He sat next to Putin at the dinner. The 302 indicated that “Flynn received an appropriate “threat briefing” from U.S. officials before attending.”

Flynn told the agents that he called Kislyak in January 2016 upon hearing of the death of “former GRU Director Igor Sergunâ€s death in Lebanon…to express his condolences” and note that Sergun was “someone the U.S. could work with.” Sergun died Jan. 3, 2016.”

Fox News†Gregg Re reports that several days after Flynnâ€s phone call to Kislyak, it became known that Flynn was informally advising the Trump campaign. FBI informant Stefan Halper “sprang into action” to spy on him. (Halper also contacted other members of Trumpâ€s campaign including Carter Page, George Papadopoulos and Sam Clovis several months later which was disclosed in May 2018.)

Halper contacted Russian academic and writer Svetlana Lokhova, who resides in London, to glean some information about Flynn.
In addition, Lokhova received a dinner party invitation from Christopher Andrew. He was a Cambridge professor and the official historian for MI5, the British domestic intelligence service, with whom she had co-written a book. The other invited guests were to be Halper and his wife. Lokhova was given a choice of two dates the next month.

Lokhova told Fox News, “It was very, very unusual because Stefan Halper and I, despite being part of the same group, and meeting pretty much in a public forum, weâ€ve had no personal contact at all. [Halper] to me was an obnoxious academic who absolutely hated all Russians.”

Up until now, it was thought that Flynnâ€s calls to Kislyak during the transition period in December 2016 had been the start of the FBIâ€s interest in Flynn. But this new information shows that it actually began in January 2016.

The Mueller report does not mention the spying activity which occurred earlier in 2016. Instead, they maintain that the FBIâ€s interest in Flynn began when his phone calls with Kislyak during the transition (December 2016) were discovered.

No surprise. Weâ€ve heard of three other instances where the Mueller report has omitted inconvenient information in the last week already. This is number four. Yes, I am counting.

https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaugh...t-reality/

Nothing to see here ( signed Cincy )
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(06-08-2019, 02:00 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: The Mueller report is turning out to be as truthful as the Steele dossier.

A DOJ court filing shows that the FBI actually began spying on Michael Flynn in January 2016 rather than December 2016 as the FBI and the Mueller report maintain... Flynn had contact with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in both December 2015 and January 2016. Within days of Flynnâ€s January phone call to Kislyak, the spying began.

During Flynnâ€s January 24, 2017 FBI interview, he told agents Peter Strzok and Joe Pientka about these contacts. Although a redacted copy of the 302 report was released last December, Flynnâ€s remarks about his early contacts with Kislyak only appear on the unredacted 302 which was included in Thursdayâ€s DOJ court filing. (The 302 can be viewed here.)

Now we know why this information was redacted.

Flynn told Strzok and Pientka that he had “met with Kislyak at the Russian Ambassadorâ€s residence next to the University Club prior to traveling to Russia in December 2015.”  This visit is described in the 302 as a “courtesy call.” Flynn was scheduled to speak in Moscow at a Russia Today (RT) event about Middle East issues for which he was paid $45,000. He sat next to Putin at the dinner. The 302 indicated that “Flynn received an appropriate “threat briefing” from U.S. officials before attending.”

Flynn told the agents that he called Kislyak in January 2016 upon hearing of the death of “former GRU Director Igor Sergunâ€s death in Lebanon…to express his condolences” and note that Sergun was “someone the U.S. could work with.” Sergun died Jan. 3, 2016.”

Fox News†Gregg Re reports that several days after Flynnâ€s phone call to Kislyak, it became known that Flynn was informally advising the Trump campaign. FBI informant Stefan Halper “sprang into action” to spy on him. (Halper also contacted other members of Trumpâ€s campaign including Carter Page, George Papadopoulos and Sam Clovis several months later which was disclosed in May 2018.)

Halper contacted Russian academic and writer Svetlana Lokhova, who resides in London, to glean some information about Flynn.
In addition, Lokhova received a dinner party invitation from Christopher Andrew. He was a Cambridge professor and the official historian for MI5, the British domestic intelligence service, with whom she had co-written a book. The other invited guests were to be Halper and his wife. Lokhova was given a choice of two dates the next month.

Lokhova told Fox News, “It was very, very unusual because Stefan Halper and I, despite being part of the same group, and meeting pretty much in a public forum, weâ€ve had no personal contact at all. [Halper] to me was an obnoxious academic who absolutely hated all Russians.”

Up until now, it was thought that Flynnâ€s calls to Kislyak during the transition period in December 2016 had been the start of the FBIâ€s interest in Flynn. But this new information shows that it actually began in January 2016.

The Mueller report does not mention the spying activity which occurred earlier in 2016. Instead, they maintain that the FBIâ€s interest in Flynn began when his phone calls with Kislyak during the transition (December 2016) were discovered.

No surprise. Weâ€ve heard of three other instances where the Mueller report has omitted inconvenient information in the last week already. This is number four. Yes, I am counting.

https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaugh...t-reality/

MSM still holding fast that the Mueller report is a blueprint for impeachment.  None of this will be acknowledged until it comes to a point where it's unavoidable and they have to acknowledge it.  When/if people start going to jail and/or throwing each other under a bus via testimony, that is when the MSM will gulp hard and have to acknowledge this stuff.  

I knew the Mueller investigation was a joke, but this is beyond a joke.  Trump's rantings were accurate.  This was all part of a coup attempt.  Or at least an attempt at an ouster til 2020.  One helluva legacy there for Mueller to ride off into the sunset.  What a disgrace.
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From The New Yorker

A friend in Washington, D.C., was calling with bad news: two Republican senators, Lindsey Graham and Charles Grassley, had just referred Steeleâ€s name to the Department of Justice, for a possible criminal investigation. They were accusing Steele—the author of a secret dossier that helped trigger the current federal investigation into President Donald Trumpâ€s possible ties to Russia—of having lied to the very F.B.I. officers heâ€d alerted about his findings. The details of the criminal referral were classified, so Steele could not know the nature of the allegations, let alone rebut them, but they had something to do with his having misled the Bureau about contacts that heâ€d had with the press. For nearly thirty years, Steele had worked as a close ally of the United States, and he couldnâ€t imagine why anyone would believe that he had been deceptive. But lying to an F.B.I. officer is a felony, an offense that can be punished by up to five years in prison.
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Two senior GOP senators on Monday released a copy of their request for a criminal probe of Christopher Steele, the author of a controversial dossier on President Donald Trump's ties to Russia, which alleges that he received information from an ally of Hillary Clinton while the Democrat's campaign was financing his work.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) released their referral for a Steele investigation, sent last month, after approval from the FBI.

Story Continued Below

Grassley and Graham on Monday also asked the Department of Justice and FBI to declassify more information related to their Steele referral, including an application to conduct surveillance of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.

That surveillance application, Republicans have said, improperly involved research conducted by Steele that was paid for by the Clinton campaign. Republicans on Friday released a declassified memo they wrote on the subject.

The referral document released Monday regarding Steele cites a second, unpublished research document prepared by Steele, based on material given to him by a source who received it from "a friend of the Clintons."

"It is troubling enough that the Clinton campaign funded Mr. Steele's work, but that these Clinton associates were contemporaneously feeding Mr. Steele allegations raises additional concerns about his credibility," Grassley and Graham wrote in the Jan. 5 referral.

The unclassified referral also echoes concerns raised by House Intelligence Committee Republicans about Steele's contact with reporters about his dossier, which alleges a Kremlin-backed plan to amass damaging material about Trump while helping his 2016 campaign. Steele has acknowledged meeting with reporters off the record in mid-2016 to discuss his work, the Republicans said.

"Simply put, the more people who contemporaneously knew that Mr. Steele was compiling his dossier, the more likely it was vulnerable to manipulation," the senators wrote.

Other lawmakers have called for more information to be declassified surrounding the FBI's surveillance of Page. Reps. Brad Wenstrup (R-Ohio) and Jim Himes (D-Conn.) both told CNN that they would support the release of the government's application to monitor Page, whose ties to Russia reportedly first attracted the notice of law enforcement officials in 2013.

Story Continued Below

The Department of Justice had no comment on the Republican senators' letter Monday.

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(06-08-2019, 01:44 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I'll tell ya what, I will know ***** is about to go down when I hear about people leaving the country, committing "suicide," getting murdered in "botched robbery attempts," and some actually comimitting actual suicide.  That's when we'll know for sure that ***** is really getting real.

2 former GOP Senators, 2 veteran police officers found dead within a span of two days

http://milnenews.com/2019/06/07/2-former...-two-days/
The America, and the American Military, that you once knew is gone.
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(06-08-2019, 04:49 PM)lrrps21 Wrote:
(06-08-2019, 01:44 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I'll tell ya what, I will know ***** is about to go down when I hear about people leaving the country, committing "suicide," getting murdered in "botched robbery attempts," and some actually comimitting actual suicide.  That's when we'll know for sure that ***** is really getting real.

2 former GOP Senators, 2 veteran police officers found dead within a span of two days

http://milnenews.com/2019/06/07/2-former...-two-days/

They were state senators, but one was Arkansas.  Shocking. Rolleyes   The other was Oklahoma.  The cops were NY cops.  SD?  

I highly doubt the state senators could be linked to anything relevant regarding the Mueller stuff, but the NY cops could be interesting.  I mean, odds are likelg nothing nefarious, but I'd love to know if they had any contact with the Weiner/Huma stuff, etc...  Doubtful, but nothing surprises me anymore
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-1...ording-gop
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/201...s-in-2015/


Essentially, the underlying evidence within the Collyer FISA report, outlines how the DOJ National Security Division (John P Carlin), FBI and NSA (Admiral Mike Rogers) informed the court that unauthorized access to the NSA/FBI database had been ongoing for a long period of time. The “unauthorized access” was primarily driven by contractors who had access to the information database and were using it in 2015 and 2016. According to the report over 85% of searches conducted were “unauthorized” abuses of the system. DOJ-NSD head John Carlin resigned in 2016 immediately after informing the court.
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