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Women dying after giving birth - are we wrong to condemn abortion?
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(02-22-2019, 01:01 PM)BoyGenius Wrote:
(02-22-2019, 08:06 AM)K9Buck Wrote:
(02-22-2019, 08:00 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: 700 women out of 4,000,000 births each year in the USA die from complications related to child birth and that justifies abortion?  ok ....

I didn't say that.  The question is a fair one.  How much risk is a woman required to accept before she is justified in aborting her pregnancy?

It's not a fair question... it's another pathetic excuse to kill an unborn baby out of convenience for the mother.

It's not a fair question to ask what level of risk a pregnant woman is obligated to accept?  Look, I oppose abortion, but I also recognize that there are probably some rare instances where it's prudent.
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(02-22-2019, 11:34 PM)sparky454 Wrote: Sometimes it's a tough decision to make. My ex was expecting back in '83 or '84. She was at work and she felt something run down her leg. It was the weekend and she called the Ob/Gyn on call. He told her to go home and prop her feet up and come to the office in the morning. Long story short her water had broke and they admitted her to the hospital and did some tests. Then they said that the baby was alive, had a heartbeat, but was not viable outside the womb. They said they needed to remove the baby, they called it a D&C and not an abortion, because it could cause her to become infected and that the life of the mother had priority. That's a tough decision to make to stop a beating heart. You always wonder if you did the right thing.

If the baby isn't viable, what other option did you have?
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(02-23-2019, 02:33 AM)K9Buck Wrote:
(02-22-2019, 01:01 PM)BoyGenius Wrote:
(02-22-2019, 08:06 AM)K9Buck Wrote:
(02-22-2019, 08:00 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: 700 women out of 4,000,000 births each year in the USA die from complications related to child birth and that justifies abortion?  ok ....

I didn't say that.  The question is a fair one.  How much risk is a woman required to accept before she is justified in aborting her pregnancy?

It's not a fair question... it's another pathetic excuse to kill an unborn baby out of convenience for the mother.

It's not a fair question to ask what level of risk a pregnant woman is obligated to accept?  Look, I oppose abortion, but I also recognize that there are probably some rare instances where it's prudent.

It's a waste of time, as well as a distraction and a diversion to focus on 0.01% of the cases. Let's debate the 98% of abortions, which are for convenience (of the mother, not the baby).
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(02-23-2019, 10:41 AM)Beastdog Wrote: It's a waste of time, as well as a distraction and a diversion to focus on 0.01% of the cases. Let's debate the 98% of abortions, which are for convenience (of the mother, not the baby).

Amen! It is a way of the pro abortion folks to deflect from the real topic of murdering babies for convenience.
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#41
Come on, guys. We agree that there are the RARE occasions when an abortion is justified. To say that we shouldn't talk about those instances is, well, dumb. No offense.
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(02-23-2019, 11:39 AM)K9Buck Wrote: Come on, guys.  We agree that there are the RARE occasions when an abortion is justified.  To say that we shouldn't talk about those instances is, well, dumb.  No offense.

No, you're D-U-M-B, dumb! So there.
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(02-22-2019, 11:16 AM)3rdgensooner Wrote: The need for an abortion to save the mother is extraordinarily rare. In that case of course the woman has the choice or in an emergency the physician may act if she can't make the choice. Red herring like rape. Abortion is overwhelmingly a choice of convenience. Late term abortions make no sense at all. You deliver the infant and if it has health problems you treat them as best you can. Killing a child that would survive otherwise outside the womb is completely unsupportable under any moral or ethical code.

This.
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