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The Trump Phone call to Ukrainian President looks to be a dud
(10-07-2019, 08:19 AM)cincydawg Wrote: Yes, you're right there is some data, but I'm not sure who did the analysis and what their ulteriors might be.

True, but again...  all we need is the NSA to release the info regarding the DNC hack.  Yet we have nothing from them.  The obvious take home/conclusion then is that the DNC was not hacked, otherwise we would have had that very info from virtually day one.  

Hillary, if the Russians hacked you like you claim, simply show us the NSA info detailing the hack.  

To me, this is a topic that they can get away with because your average person doesn't really get this stuff.  Now that said, you would think some go-getter Hardy Boy or Nancy Drew in the media would've wanted to make a name for themselves by now.  Where are the stories on this?  I can't get it from "trust worthy" MSM sources, I have to get it from "conspiracy theory" media sites.  

This should not be a hard situation to report on---or to at least attempt to report on.
(10-07-2019, 08:00 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 07:19 AM)cincydawg Wrote: The inside job theory is viable, it's just that we have no data to support it, or the other possibilities either. We don't know (in public).

First, VIPS concluded that the DNC data were not hacked by the Russians or anyone else accessing the server over the internet. Instead, the data were downloaded by means of a thumb drive or similar portable storage device physically attached to the DNC server.

How was this determined? The time stamps contained in the released computer files’ metadata establish that, at 6:45 p.m. July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes (not megabits) of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. This took 87 seconds, which means the transfer rate was 22.7 megabytes per second, a speed, according to VIPS, that “is much faster than what is physically possible with a hack.” 

3G went over this meta data stuff with me a while back.  He said something along the lines that it would appear to take much longer to hack something after a year's (or whatever the time frame was from the original hack or inside download to when they got this information) worth of meta data piled on, but is that actually what they are looking at to make this determination?  To me this just appears that they are seeing the transfer rate of raw data and just did a simple math problem.  Again I am not a computer person.  What was 3G saying that I am missing here?  They're just looking at time stamps and the amount of data transferred.  They don't appear to be reenacting the situation a year or so later with more meta data piled onto it.  What am I not getting?

I don't think you're missing anything. What's missing? An examination of the "hacked" DNC server by ANY law enforcement agency. It's bizarre how many people think that is much ado about nothing.

That's akin to me claiming my car was stolen from my garage but refusing detectives access to my garage, instead giving the popo a report written by the private detective I hired confirming my car was stolen.
(10-07-2019, 07:19 AM)cincydawg Wrote: The inside job theory is viable, it's just that we have no data to support it, or the other possibilities either.

We don't know (in public).

Poor Seth Rich
Something fishy going on here between the time Trump made the call and it was reported.....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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