The Trump Phone call to Ukrainian President looks to be a dud

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AND...Biden was shot in the foot and other places over this.  Trump will LOL this off as will Giuliani but Biden is DONE.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-...nunes-says

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Maureen Dowd shows her stripes HOPING this brings Trump down?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA   ...ain't happening.

http://theoneworldnews.com/analysis-comm...oked-mile/

[P1tchblack]

Here's a question for anybody who wants to answer... if everything is on the up-and-up in regards to Giuliani and Trump's intentions / goals with the Biden job situation, then why did Giuliani lie?

He didn't lie.  YOU can continue to wet your panties over it but I watched the Cuomo interview and like him you are twisting it to SEEM he lied.  Giuliani has never lied.

Explain how you can ask someone a question and they answer no,  then you ask them the SAME question, 30 seconds later, and they answer yes,  but they didn't lie.

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Here's a question for anybody who wants to answer... if everything is on the up-and-up in regards to Giuliani and Trump's intentions / goals with the Biden job situation, then why did Giuliani lie?

He didn't lie.  YOU can continue to wet your panties over it but I watched the Cuomo interview and like him you are twisting it to SEEM he lied.  Giuliani has never lied.

Explain how you can ask someone a question and they answer no,  then you ask them the SAME question and they answer yes,  but they didn't lie.

I did once

[BoyGenius]

Who's lying?

Biden says he NEVER discussed any business dealings with his son... Joe Biden gets fired up when Fox News' Peter Doocy asks him how many times he discussed overseas business dealings with Hunter, insisting that he's "never spoken" with his son about that before demanding that Doocy "ask the right questions" as it relates to Trump. pic.twitter.com/UU78mddkxC — Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) September 21, 2019

Hold up, wait a minute... There's a problem: Joe Biden *did* discuss overseas business with his son Hunter, at least once. This is from The New Yorker, about 2 months ago.[/url] [url=https://t.co/jOZmV9sQPf]pic.twitter.com/jOZmV9sQPf — David Martosko (@dmartosko) September 21, 2019

Biden bragging about making the threat - if the prosecutor investigating his son wasn't dismissed, billions of dollars of US loans would be withheld... Joe Biden brags about how he threatened to pull $1 billion in loan guarantees from Ukraine if it didnâ€t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin. The prosecutor, who was fired, was leading a corruption investigation into a company that employed Biden's son, Hunter pic.twitter.com/xZd3vIMbuL — Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) September 20, 2019

[P1tchblack]

Here's a question for anybody who wants to answer... if everything is on the up-and-up in regards to Giuliani and Trump's intentions / goals with the Biden job situation, then why did Giuliani lie?

He didn't lie.  YOU can continue to wet your panties over it but I watched the Cuomo interview and like him you are twisting it to SEEM he lied.  Giuliani has never lied.

Explain how you can ask someone a question and they answer no,  then you ask them the SAME question and they answer yes,  but they didn't lie.

I did once

Well, I'm very excited to hear your explanation for how Biden did it's in this situation.

[BoyGenius]

Said whistleblower didnâ€t hear the alleged conversation... canâ€t say what was said because he didn't hear it. It's hearsay. Curious who's trying to spy on Trump's conversations.

The whistleblower that is not a whistleblower…. https://t.co/YhMzQSekwD — Tom Fitton (@TomFitton) September 21, 2019

[Syncro]

Pitch is a cartoon character. The sooner everyone stops replying to him the better this place will be

[P1tchblack]

Who's lying?

Biden says he NEVER discussed any business dealings with his son... Joe Biden gets fired up when Fox News' Peter Doocy asks him how many times he discussed overseas business dealings with Hunter, insisting that he's "never spoken" with his son about that before demanding that Doocy "ask the right questions" as it relates to Trump. pic.twitter.com/UU78mddkxC — Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) September 21, 2019

Hold up, wait a minute... There's a problem: Joe Biden *did* discuss overseas business with his son Hunter, at least once. This is from The New Yorker, about 2 months ago.[/url] [url=https://t.co/jOZmV9sQPf]pic.twitter.com/jOZmV9sQPf — David Martosko (@dmartosko) September 21, 2019

Biden bragging about making the threat - if the prosecutor investigating his son wasn't dismissed, billions of dollars of US loans would be withheld... Joe Biden brags about how he threatened to pull $1 billion in loan guarantees from Ukraine if it didnâ€t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin. The prosecutor, who was fired, was leading a corruption investigation into a company that employed Biden's son, Hunter pic.twitter.com/xZd3vIMbuL — Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) September 20, 2019

There is a good chance that Biden is lying also. The question is, did he do anything illegal if he did help in getting his son a job?

The question I asked was, once again, if Giuliani and Trump's intentions / concerns about the Ukraine situation are legitimate, and not just some game to gain a political advantage, why did Giuliani lie about asking for an investigation?

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Said whistleblower didnâ€t hear the alleged conversation... canâ€t say what was said because he didn't hear it. It's hearsay. Curious who's trying to spy on Trump's conversations.

The whistleblower that is not a whistleblower…. https://t.co/YhMzQSekwD  — Tom Fitton (@TomFitton) September 21, 2019

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[ScarletHayes]

Pitch is a cartoon character. The sooner everyone stops replying to him the better this place will be

I think part of Pitch still buys into the idea of a dispassionate press thatâ€s concerned with American ideals/truth as opposed to merely being a propaganda arm of a political party.  The evidence to the contrary is staggering, but some people just refuse to believe that itâ€s possible for the press to be that nakedly partisan.  If you donâ€t (want to) see that the mask is now off you probably never will

[Hightop77]

Holy *****... I never said it shouldn't be investigated, Captain strawman. What I said was Giuliani lied. He lied. It's on video. Based on the fact that Giuliani lied, there's probably a decent  chance that Trump is lying about the content of his conversations with the Ukrainian president, too.

Who cares?  It is irrelevant.  Everyone lies especially politicians.  Some lies are meaningless and some have major consequences.  What Democrats lie about is usually significant, negatively impacts the country and they get away with it thanks to the media.  What Rudy said is irrelevant.

This is hilarious. I need to bookmark this exact post where you downplay lying by a republican politician. I would absolutely love to see you post anything similar when it's a Democrat lying. Freaking hilarious.

If you think Giuliani lying is irrelevant, then please explain why Biden's son having a job he doesn't deserve is so relevant. Politicians lie all the time and parents use pull to get things for their kids all the time, right? Again, Trump is welcome to investigate Biden to see if he made any promises to anyone to get his son a job. That can happen whether the Ukraine president is involved or not.

You actually don't understand the insignificance of what Rudy said versus Biden using the office of Vice President to become involved in corruption and influence peddling to benefit his son?  Unbelievable.  We are back into 3vfarm territory again.

So you KNOW  Biden used his position to get his skn a job?

Link?

That isn't the allegation with regard to the Ukraine.  

https://twitter.com/jsolomonreports/stat...65?lang=en

[P1tchblack]

Who cares?  It is irrelevant.  Everyone lies especially politicians.  Some lies are meaningless and some have major consequences.  What Democrats lie about is usually significant, negatively impacts the country and they get away with it thanks to the media.  What Rudy said is irrelevant.

This is hilarious. I need to bookmark this exact post where you downplay lying by a republican politician. I would absolutely love to see you post anything similar when it's a Democrat lying. Freaking hilarious.

If you think Giuliani lying is irrelevant, then please explain why Biden's son having a job he doesn't deserve is so relevant. Politicians lie all the time and parents use pull to get things for their kids all the time, right? Again, Trump is welcome to investigate Biden to see if he made any promises to anyone to get his son a job. That can happen whether the Ukraine president is involved or not.

You actually don't understand the insignificance of what Rudy said versus Biden using the office of Vice President to become involved in corruption and influence peddling to benefit his son?  Unbelievable.  We are back into 3vfarm territory again.

So you KNOW  Biden used his position to get his skn a job?

Link?

That isn't the allegation with regard to the Ukraine.  

https://twitter.com/jsolomonreports/stat...65?lang=en

Ha ha ha.... you are so Twisted into knots, you can't even keep all of your nonsense straight anymore.


"You actually don't understand the insignificance of what Rudy said versus Biden using the office of Vice President to become involved in corruption and influence peddling to benefit his son? "

[BoyGenius]

Look at what CNN buried in the 22nd paragraph of an update on the whistleblower. https://t.co/q5ffnJpjg8 pic.twitter.com/qVGQQ3P7w8 — Joe Borelli (@JoeBorelliNYC) September 21, 2019

It's obvious the whistleblower story has all of the hallmarks of an MSM false narrative and scandal that will end up going nowhere or even take out Biden, which might be the real goal. Make no mistake, Trump and Giuliani are not the story...

The story is... the whistleblower lied about his/her knowledge of the conversation... they heard about it once. 
The story is... Hunter Biden traveling to collect large payments from foreign govts/oligarchs.
The story is... Joe Biden threatening to withhold US loans if the prosecutor investigating his son's company wasn't fired.
The story is... former cocaine user Hunter Biden earning $50k/month despite possessing no background in Ukraine and no background in energy or natural gas.

[P1tchblack]

Pitch is a cartoon character. The sooner everyone stops replying to him the better this place will be

I think part of Pitch still buys into the idea of a dispassionate press thatâ€s concerned with American ideals/truth as opposed to merely being a propaganda arm of a political party.  The evidence to the contrary is staggering, but some people just refuse to believe that itâ€s possible for the press to be that nakedly partisan.  If you donâ€t (want to) see that the mask is now off you probably never will

There are no news outlets anymore. There are Outlets that want you to believe that there slanted / edited version of the news is unbiased. That's about it.