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The Trump Phone call to Ukrainian President looks to be a dud
(09-27-2019, 11:47 AM)dunefan Wrote:
(09-27-2019, 11:38 AM)JamesWright Wrote: The quid pro quo is obvious to anyone who isn't looking with blinders on. We have done good things for Ukraine. Ukraine hasn't reciprocated. I want you talk to my people about looking into the Bidens. Not really mysterious. Definitely impeachable. Definitely using foreign policy to attack a rival for the next campaign.

The ironic thing is that Joe Biden was never going to be the nominee.

My God, you didn't hit and run today.  Well done!

The drivel you just wrote was exactly the lie that Schitt read into the record yesterday and had to walk back as a lie.  Are you really this stupid that you can't read and think for yourself and see that this is exactly like the Russian hoax?  Oh, don't tell me, you still believe that lie?

I don't believe the Mueller report was a hoax. It doesn't exonerate Trump. It lays out evidence of obstruction of justice, and many different instances of it. Well, what was Trump obstructing justice about, a hoax? That's a stretch, right? That would make him the world's biggest idiot. Did nothing wrong, now watch me keep you from finding out the details.

This is not a hoax. Trump is in real trouble.

By the way, you can judge my take on things by my predictions. 90% likelihood of impeachment. Maybe 5% likelihood of conviction in the Senate.
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(09-27-2019, 11:53 AM)dunefan Wrote:
(09-27-2019, 11:49 AM)JamesWright Wrote:
(09-27-2019, 11:44 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote:
(09-27-2019, 11:38 AM)JamesWright Wrote: The quid pro quo is obvious to anyone who isn't looking with blinders on. We have done good things for Ukraine. Ukraine hasn't reciprocated. I want you talk to my people about looking into the Bidens. Not really mysterious. Definitely impeachable. Definitely using foreign policy to attack a rival for the next campaign.

The ironic thing is that Joe Biden was never going to be the nominee.
In your opinion.....using your interpretation.......is this worse than 
1) Ted Kennedy enlisting Russia in 1984
2) Hillary Clinton's campaign being helped in 2016
3) Senator Murphy and the Ukraine

Again, IMO, there is no hint of quid pro quo.....but I'm a Trumper.  Oh wait.......
No hint of quid pro quo even though many legal scholars have said it was obvious? Sure.

What anyone else did is irrelevant. Again,. personal responsibility.

I'll raise your legal scholars and trump (haha) them with Alan Dershowitz who says they are full of Schitt.

The Alan Dershowitz who palled around with Epstein? Ah. He is a well-known Trump apologist. I never knew why until the Epstein case broke. Now I wonder what all he is hiding.
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(09-27-2019, 11:54 AM)JamesWright Wrote:
(09-27-2019, 11:47 AM)dunefan Wrote:
(09-27-2019, 11:38 AM)JamesWright Wrote: The quid pro quo is obvious to anyone who isn't looking with blinders on. We have done good things for Ukraine. Ukraine hasn't reciprocated. I want you talk to my people about looking into the Bidens. Not really mysterious. Definitely impeachable. Definitely using foreign policy to attack a rival for the next campaign.

The ironic thing is that Joe Biden was never going to be the nominee.

My God, you didn't hit and run today.  Well done!

The drivel you just wrote was exactly the lie that Schitt read into the record yesterday and had to walk back as a lie.  Are you really this stupid that you can't read and think for yourself and see that this is exactly like the Russian hoax?  Oh, don't tell me, you still believe that lie?

I don't believe the Mueller report was a hoax. It doesn't exonerate Trump. It lays out evidence of obstruction of justice, and many different instances of it. Well, what was Trump obstructing justice about, a hoax? That's a stretch, right? That would make him the world's biggest idiot. Did nothing wrong, now watch me keep you from finding out the details.

This is not a hoax. Trump is in real trouble.

By the way, you can judge my take on things by my predictions. 90% likelihood of impeachment. Maybe 5% likelihood of conviction in the Senate.

Listen, Brainiac, the Mueller report was to find evidence of collusion.  It failed at that.  Then they tried for obstruction.  They failed at that also.  Anyways, I asked if you still believe the collusion lie.  You obviously do but know you can't back up your beliefs so you didn't answer the question.  You socialists are so predictable.
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(09-27-2019, 11:50 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: so....you can't specify the 'truth' here. 

I do think Trump is responsible for his behavior.  I just don't have this animus towards him where EVERYTHING he does is wrong.  And there is nothing wrong here.  Joe Biden misused his position a number of years ago to get his son a job.  he misused his position to get the prosecutor fired who was looking into the original misuse.  It is entirely appropriate to request that Ukraine review that.

Democrats know nothing but hysteria at this point.  It is normal to them.

"To the Senate of the United States: With a view to receiving the advice and consent of the Senate to ratification, I transmit herewith the Treaty Between the United States of America and Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters with Annex"
--William J. Clinton

Trump can ask Ukraine anything he wants; especially after Ukraine Joe's video boasting about getting a Ukraine dude fired.
DC is a symptom, not the cause. The cause is basic voter stupidity and economic ignorance.
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I don't want to hit and run, but it's exhausting to get jumped on, and I have a busy work day without much time to post. It's not like I'm afraid of arguing or providing my reasoning.
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(09-27-2019, 12:00 PM)JamesWright Wrote: I don't want to hit and run, but it's exhausting to get jumped on, and I have a busy work day without much time to post. It's not like I'm afraid of arguing or providing my reasoning.

Nobody's jumping on you. You seem to post then disappear. When you do stick around you simply evade while posting talking points.
DC is a symptom, not the cause. The cause is basic voter stupidity and economic ignorance.
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(09-27-2019, 11:56 AM)JamesWright Wrote:
(09-27-2019, 11:53 AM)dunefan Wrote:
(09-27-2019, 11:49 AM)JamesWright Wrote:
(09-27-2019, 11:44 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote:
(09-27-2019, 11:38 AM)JamesWright Wrote: The quid pro quo is obvious to anyone who isn't looking with blinders on. We have done good things for Ukraine. Ukraine hasn't reciprocated. I want you talk to my people about looking into the Bidens. Not really mysterious. Definitely impeachable. Definitely using foreign policy to attack a rival for the next campaign.

The ironic thing is that Joe Biden was never going to be the nominee.
In your opinion.....using your interpretation.......is this worse than 
1) Ted Kennedy enlisting Russia in 1984
2) Hillary Clinton's campaign being helped in 2016
3) Senator Murphy and the Ukraine

Again, IMO, there is no hint of quid pro quo.....but I'm a Trumper.  Oh wait.......
No hint of quid pro quo even though many legal scholars have said it was obvious? Sure.

What anyone else did is irrelevant. Again,. personal responsibility.

I'll raise your legal scholars and trump (haha) them with Alan Dershowitz who says they are full of Schitt.

The Alan Dershowitz who palled around with Epstein? Ah. He is a well-known Trump apologist. I never knew why until the Epstein case broke. Now I wonder what all he is hiding.

He's also a well known democrat who doesn't tow the party line when the party is lying. My guess is his legal scholarship dwarfs the hacks you site.  Why don't you inform us of these "legal scholars" names that you site and let us do some research into their qualifications.  I'm sure I'll be waiting quite some time for this information that you so quickly throw out there but really don't have a clue about.
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(09-27-2019, 12:00 PM)JamesWright Wrote: I don't want to hit and run, but it's exhausting to get jumped on, and I have a busy work day without much time to post. It's not like I'm afraid of arguing or providing my reasoning.

In other words, I've run out of excuses and talking points that I am not really that "up" on so I'll be back when I'm better prepared.
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Once again, AG Barr is going to drop the ball and the opportunities right in front of him to get these corrupt politicians in DC under control.  There are numerous potential issues ranging from Biden and his son to the planted "whistle blower" to the leaking Schiff that need to be investigated and charged and once again, just like with the prior coup attempt against Trump with the fake collusion scandal, he has his thumb up his ass and proving he is one of them.
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Sorry. Over. No quid pro quo. Nothing burger again. Liberal clowns, I mean legal scholars can say what they want. There is nothing there. We read the transcript and heard the Ukrainians and we don't need to hear the addled biased opinions of ultra liberal hacks. It'll go just about as far as the last Kavanaugh idiocy which is nowhere. No quid pro quo and no bimbo. 
BTW also didn't and won't vote for Trump like ala. Trump is everything Dems say he is. Unfortunately that makes him light years better than any liberal on the planet.
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(09-27-2019, 12:23 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: Once again, AG Barr is going to drop the ball and the opportunities right in front of him to get these corrupt politicians in DC under control.  There are numerous potential issues ranging from Biden and his son to the planted "whistle blower" to the leaking Schiff that need to be investigated and charged and once again, just like with the prior coup attempt against Trump with the fake collusion scandal, he has his thumb up his ass and proving he is one of them.

I won't say you are totally wrong but he wasn't AG when that all went down.
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Sources report the whistleblower is REO Speedwagon singer Kevin Cronin.  Sounds like he heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend...
[Image: Kevin+Cronin+Jobs+Screening+LA+GyNK6p1G6rel.jpg]
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