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The Trump Phone call to Ukrainian President looks to be a dud
#37
(09-22-2019, 10:37 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 10:05 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 09:56 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 09:49 AM)zigbee Wrote: LOL...come  on.  What you post and what is said in that clip is not the same.

Giuliani lied.  He made up some bullshit about the 2016 election, when any sane person knows they're trying to dig up dirt on Biden.

For someone who believes himself to be an independent thinker, you sure do parrot a lot of the MSM propaganda verbatim.  If Biden did something corrupt involving a foreign country, doesn't Trump have responsibility for investigating it?  Trump just received a 2.5 year cavity search over allegations that were not even true so why do you give Biden a pass over something he openly brags about?

Holy shit... I never said it shouldn't be investigated, Captain strawman. What I said was Giuliani lied. He lied. It's on video. Based on the fact that Giuliani lied, there's probably a decent  chance that Trump is lying about the content of his conversations with the Ukrainian president, too.
Who cares?  It is irrelevant.  Everyone lies especially politicians.  Some lies are meaningless and some have major consequences.  What Democrats lie about is usually significant, negatively impacts the country and they get away with it thanks to the media.  What Rudy said is irrelevant.
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#38
(09-22-2019, 10:45 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 10:37 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 10:05 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 09:56 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 09:49 AM)zigbee Wrote: LOL...come  on.  What you post and what is said in that clip is not the same.

Giuliani lied.  He made up some bullshit about the 2016 election, when any sane person knows they're trying to dig up dirt on Biden.

For someone who believes himself to be an independent thinker, you sure do parrot a lot of the MSM propaganda verbatim.  If Biden did something corrupt involving a foreign country, doesn't Trump have responsibility for investigating it?  Trump just received a 2.5 year cavity search over allegations that were not even true so why do you give Biden a pass over something he openly brags about?

Holy shit... I never said it shouldn't be investigated, Captain strawman. What I said was Giuliani lied. He lied. It's on video. Based on the fact that Giuliani lied, there's probably a decent  chance that Trump is lying about the content of his conversations with the Ukrainian president, too.
Who cares?  It is irrelevant.  Everyone lies especially politicians.  Some lies are meaningless and some have major consequences.  What Democrats lie about is usually significant, negatively impacts the country and they get away with it thanks to the media.  What Rudy said is irrelevant.

This is hilarious. I need to bookmark this exact post where you downplay lying by a republican politician. I would absolutely love to see you post anything similar when it's a Democrat lying. Freaking hilarious.

If you think Giuliani lying is irrelevant, then please explain why Biden's son having a job he doesn't deserve is so relevant. Politicians lie all the time and parents use pull to get things for their kids all the time, right? Again, Trump is welcome to investigate Biden to see if he made any promises to anyone to get his son a job. That can happen whether the Ukraine president is involved or not.
“You don't get anything worth getting, by pretending to know things you don't know.”  –Sam Harris
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#39
Who is Rudy lying to? The media? F*ck em.

Would it be a different story if he was lying to Congress, a special counsel, etc? Yes, absolutely...that'd be a real story. Bullshitting a CNN talking head is hardly worth getting so worked up over.

Did you even bother reading the Solomon piece I linked this morning in this thread?
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#40
(09-22-2019, 10:53 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 10:45 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 10:37 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 10:05 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 09:56 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: Giuliani lied.  He made up some bullshit about the 2016 election, when any sane person knows they're trying to dig up dirt on Biden.

For someone who believes himself to be an independent thinker, you sure do parrot a lot of the MSM propaganda verbatim.  If Biden did something corrupt involving a foreign country, doesn't Trump have responsibility for investigating it?  Trump just received a 2.5 year cavity search over allegations that were not even true so why do you give Biden a pass over something he openly brags about?

Holy shit... I never said it shouldn't be investigated, Captain strawman. What I said was Giuliani lied. He lied. It's on video. Based on the fact that Giuliani lied, there's probably a decent  chance that Trump is lying about the content of his conversations with the Ukrainian president, too.
Who cares?  It is irrelevant.  Everyone lies especially politicians.  Some lies are meaningless and some have major consequences.  What Democrats lie about is usually significant, negatively impacts the country and they get away with it thanks to the media.  What Rudy said is irrelevant.

This is hilarious. I need to bookmark this exact post where you downplay lying by a republican politician. I would absolutely love to see you post anything similar when it's a Democrat lying. Freaking hilarious.

If you think Giuliani lying is irrelevant, then please explain why Biden's son having a job he doesn't deserve is so relevant. Politicians lie all the time and parents use pull to get things for their kids all the time, right? Again, Trump is welcome to investigate Biden to see if he made any promises to anyone to get his son a job. That can happen whether the Ukraine president is involved or not.
You actually don't understand the insignificance of what Rudy said versus Biden using the office of Vice President to become involved in corruption and influence peddling to benefit his son?  Unbelievable.  We are back into 3vfarm territory again.
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#41
(09-22-2019, 11:00 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: You actually don't understand the insignificance of what Rudy said versus Biden using the office of Vice President to become involved in corruption and influence peddling to benefit his son?  Unbelievable.  We are back into 3vfarm territory again.

He understands, he just chooses to be intentionally obtuse and drag every thread into the weeds.
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#42
(09-22-2019, 11:00 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 10:53 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 10:45 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 10:37 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 10:05 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: For someone who believes himself to be an independent thinker, you sure do parrot a lot of the MSM propaganda verbatim.  If Biden did something corrupt involving a foreign country, doesn't Trump have responsibility for investigating it?  Trump just received a 2.5 year cavity search over allegations that were not even true so why do you give Biden a pass over something he openly brags about?

Holy shit... I never said it shouldn't be investigated, Captain strawman. What I said was Giuliani lied. He lied. It's on video. Based on the fact that Giuliani lied, there's probably a decent  chance that Trump is lying about the content of his conversations with the Ukrainian president, too.
Who cares?  It is irrelevant.  Everyone lies especially politicians.  Some lies are meaningless and some have major consequences.  What Democrats lie about is usually significant, negatively impacts the country and they get away with it thanks to the media.  What Rudy said is irrelevant.

This is hilarious. I need to bookmark this exact post where you downplay lying by a republican politician. I would absolutely love to see you post anything similar when it's a Democrat lying. Freaking hilarious.

If you think Giuliani lying is irrelevant, then please explain why Biden's son having a job he doesn't deserve is so relevant. Politicians lie all the time and parents use pull to get things for their kids all the time, right? Again, Trump is welcome to investigate Biden to see if he made any promises to anyone to get his son a job. That can happen whether the Ukraine president is involved or not.
You actually don't understand the insignificance of what Rudy said versus Biden using the office of Vice President to become involved in corruption and influence peddling to benefit his son?  Unbelievable.  We are back into 3vfarm territory again.

So you KNOW  Biden used his position to get his skn a job?

Link?
“You don't get anything worth getting, by pretending to know things you don't know.”  –Sam Harris
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#43
(09-22-2019, 10:59 AM)Syncro Wrote: Who is Rudy lying to?  The media?  F*ck em.

Would it be a different story if he was lying to Congress, a special counsel, etc?  Yes, absolutely...that'd be a real story.  Bullshitting a CNN talking head is hardly worth getting so worked up over.

Did you even bother reading the Solomon piece I linked this morning in this thread?

FYI...since none of us are politicians, nor speak directly to politicians, the media is the only way we get information on what's going on in the government.  Giuliani lied. Why? Why do you feel the need to lie about an attempt to investigate a potential pay-for-play type situation?  If what you are investigating is a legitimate concern, why do you lie?
“You don't get anything worth getting, by pretending to know things you don't know.”  –Sam Harris
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#44
Here's a question for anybody who wants to answer... if everything is on the up-and-up in regards to Giuliani and Trump's intentions / goals with the Biden job situation, then why did Giuliani lie?
“You don't get anything worth getting, by pretending to know things you don't know.”  –Sam Harris
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#45
(09-22-2019, 11:46 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: Here's a question for anybody who wants to answer... if everything is on the up-and-up in regards to Giuliani and Trump's intentions / goals with the Biden job situation, then why did Giuliani lie?
He didn't lie.  YOU can continue to wet your panties over it but I watched the Cuomo interview and like him you are twisting it to SEEM he lied.  Giuliani has never lied.







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#46
AND...Biden was shot in the foot and other places over this.  Trump will LOL this off as will Giuliani but Biden is DONE.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-...nunes-says







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#47
Maureen Dowd shows her stripes HOPING this brings Trump down?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA   ...ain't happening.

http://theoneworldnews.com/analysis-comm...oked-mile/







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#48
(09-22-2019, 12:16 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-22-2019, 11:46 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: Here's a question for anybody who wants to answer... if everything is on the up-and-up in regards to Giuliani and Trump's intentions / goals with the Biden job situation, then why did Giuliani lie?
He didn't lie.  YOU can continue to wet your panties over it but I watched the Cuomo interview and like him you are twisting it to SEEM he lied.  Giuliani has never lied.

Explain how you can ask someone a question and they answer no,  then you ask them the SAME question, 30 seconds later, and they answer yes,  but they didn't lie.
“You don't get anything worth getting, by pretending to know things you don't know.”  –Sam Harris
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