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The Trump Phone call to Ukrainian President looks to be a dud
Rudy Giuliani channeled President Trump Monday with a wee-hours Twitter blitz aimed at turning the Ukraine story currently roiling Washington into a big problem for Democrats.
Giuliani, the personal attorney for Trump and outspoken critic of presidential hopeful Joe Biden and his sonâ€s relationship with Ukraine, accused Kiev of laundering $3 million to Hunter Biden, suggested that the Obama administration turned a blind eye, and made the prediction that the scandal is in its infancy.

ROMNEY WANTS ANSWERS IN WHISTLEBLOWER STORY
"If Dem party doesnâ€t call for an investigation of Bidens†millions from Ukraine and billions from China, they will own it,” he tweeted. "Bidens†made big money selling public office. How could Obama have allowed this to happen? Will Dems continue to condone and enable this kind pay-for-play?"
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All this was just a gift to Uncle Joe from Obama for being such a good boy and loyal to him for 8 years.  Another Obama scandal that no one would have ever heard of if Trump had not been elected.  Wonder how many people in the media knew about it but simply refused to report it?
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Nothing there. I heard on msnbc this morning that Joe and his drug addict son have been completely investigated and came out clean as a whistle. Also the media was all over that story and if something had been there they would have called them out.
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(09-23-2019, 07:51 AM)jmesser1982 Wrote: Nothing there. I heard on msnbc this morning that Joe and his drug addict son have been completely investigated and came out clean as a whistle. Also the media was all over that story and if something had been there they would have called them out.

Yes, I'm sure Comey and Loretta Lynch checked everything out thoroughly.
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(09-23-2019, 07:51 AM)jmesser1982 Wrote: Joe and his drug addict son

Don't forget Hunter was banging his sick (ultimately deceased) brother's wife.

Dude is a piece of work.
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(09-23-2019, 07:34 AM)zigbee Wrote: Rudy Giuliani channeled President Trump Monday with a wee-hours Twitter blitz aimed at turning the Ukraine story currently roiling Washington into a big problem for Democrats.
Giuliani, the personal attorney for Trump and outspoken critic of presidential hopeful Joe Biden and his sonâ€s relationship with Ukraine, accused Kiev of laundering $3 million to Hunter Biden, suggested that the Obama administration turned a blind eye, and made the prediction that the scandal is in its infancy.

ROMNEY WANTS ANSWERS IN WHISTLEBLOWER STORY
"If Dem party doesnâ€t call for an investigation of Bidens†millions from Ukraine and billions from China, they will own it,” he tweeted. "Bidens†made big money selling public office. How could Obama have allowed this to happen? Will Dems continue to condone and enable this kind pay-for-play?"

And, as I have said repeatedly, if there is concern that Biden broke any laws, it should be investigated.  The quote that I provided from him has nothing to do with whether or not it should be investigated.

My question, for the 6th time I believe, is why Giuliani lied when asked if he inquired about Hunter Biden.
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Schiff et al... need to create an illusion of the possibility that Trump worked with and pressured the Ukranians for the purpose of impeachment. Just as The Left needed the premise Trump worked with the Russians.

The Inspector General for the Intelligence Community is Michael K. Atkinson. He accepted the whistle-blower complaint based on hearsay. Michael Atkinson was Senior Counsel for the DOJ-NSD, the DOJ-NSD who lied to the FISC and filed the Carter Page FISA application.

This is Russia-Trump 2.0... same playbook as far as I can tell. The goal is to set up obstruction charges, hoping Trump will act in haste.
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I don't think Schiff/Pelosi want to impeach, they just want to stir up the masses and appear to be moving in that direction.

Impeachment still looks like a losing ploy to me, politically.
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(09-23-2019, 08:19 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-23-2019, 07:34 AM)zigbee Wrote: Rudy Giuliani channeled President Trump Monday with a wee-hours Twitter blitz aimed at turning the Ukraine story currently roiling Washington into a big problem for Democrats.
Giuliani, the personal attorney for Trump and outspoken critic of presidential hopeful Joe Biden and his sonâ€s relationship with Ukraine, accused Kiev of laundering $3 million to Hunter Biden, suggested that the Obama administration turned a blind eye, and made the prediction that the scandal is in its infancy.

ROMNEY WANTS ANSWERS IN WHISTLEBLOWER STORY
"If Dem party doesnâ€t call for an investigation of Bidens†millions from Ukraine and billions from China, they will own it,” he tweeted. "Bidens†made big money selling public office. How could Obama have allowed this to happen? Will Dems continue to condone and enable this kind pay-for-play?"

And, as I have said repeatedly, if there is concern that Biden broke any laws, it should be investigated.  Romney was also right to say it should be investigated.  The quote that I provided from him has nothing to do with whether or not it should be investigated.

My question, for the 6th time I believe, is why Giuliani lied when asked if he inquired about Hunter Biden.
Giuliani didn't lie....now, why didn't Obama address the fact his VP was using his position to help his son to millions through corruption?
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(09-23-2019, 08:24 AM)cincydawg Wrote: Impeachment still looks like a losing ploy to me, politically.

It's a losing ploy because it'll be a loser. We all know they'd rush to the House floor and they'd have the votes, but it's dead in Senate.

The whole thing is a futile exercise. Nan and Schiff actually get far more miles out of talking about impeachment rather than actually doing it
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(09-23-2019, 08:24 AM)cincydawg Wrote: I don't think Schiff/Pelosi want to impeach, they just want to stir up the masses and appear to be moving in that direction.

Impeachment still looks like a losing ploy to me, politically.

Right now impeachment is a lose-lose proposition for the democrats. Hence the new Ukraine narrative. Their previous obstruction narrative was based on Trump firing Comey. This new obstruction narrative... based on Trump firng Michael K. Atkinson????????
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(09-23-2019, 08:24 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-23-2019, 08:19 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-23-2019, 07:34 AM)zigbee Wrote: Rudy Giuliani channeled President Trump Monday with a wee-hours Twitter blitz aimed at turning the Ukraine story currently roiling Washington into a big problem for Democrats.
Giuliani, the personal attorney for Trump and outspoken critic of presidential hopeful Joe Biden and his sonâ€s relationship with Ukraine, accused Kiev of laundering $3 million to Hunter Biden, suggested that the Obama administration turned a blind eye, and made the prediction that the scandal is in its infancy.

ROMNEY WANTS ANSWERS IN WHISTLEBLOWER STORY
"If Dem party doesnâ€t call for an investigation of Bidens†millions from Ukraine and billions from China, they will own it,” he tweeted. "Bidens†made big money selling public office. How could Obama have allowed this to happen? Will Dems continue to condone and enable this kind pay-for-play?"

And, as I have said repeatedly, if there is concern that Biden broke any laws, it should be investigated.  Romney was also right to say it should be investigated.  The quote that I provided from him has nothing to do with whether or not it should be investigated.

My question, for the 6th time I believe, is why Giuliani lied when asked if he inquired about Hunter Biden.
Giuliani didn't lie

Let's go to instant replay.  Cuomo asked Giuliani a question.  Giuliani answered 'no'.  Cuomo asked Giuliani the same question about 15 seconds later.  Giuliani answer 'yes'.  One of those answers has to be a lie

....now, why didn't Obama address the fact his VP was using his position to help his son to millions through corruption?

Because Obama is a politician who, like 99% of politicians, is only concerned about his party and protecting his buddies, not doing what's right.
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