A interesting story/study about culture

[P1tchblack]

but having a thought has nothing to do with free will.  thought is totally different than action.....which does involve free will.

Other than involuntary actions, i.e. pulling your hand from a hot stove, the thing that drives our actions/decisions are our thoughts, but we don't control the thoughts that enter our consciousness.  If we don't control our thoughts, how do we control the decisions that are the direct result of those thoughts?

Romans 12:1-2

I'm talking about verified science.  Scientifically speaking, there is no basis for humans making choices in the matter we think we do.

[P1tchblack]

Bullshit. I trash the retardate pseudoscience and that does not describe me at all.

Again, your opinion of sociology is irrelevant.  You clearly don't WANT to believe it's true, which is fine.  You're 100% welcome to willful ignorance.

No, youâ€re confused. Sociology is ignorance. If I paid attention to moronic studies by biased idiots then I would be willfully ignorant. The whole pseudoscience is an exercise in ignorance. When you learn things that are false that is ignorance.

You don't believe in mob mentality or the broken windows theory?

My statement stands. Ask Hightop dumb questions, I'll pass.

"Dumb question" meaning that if you answered it, you'd contradict yourself.

[Alabuckeye]

but having a thought has nothing to do with free will.  thought is totally different than action.....which does involve free will.

Other than involuntary actions, i.e. pulling your hand from a hot stove, the thing that drives our actions/decisions are our thoughts, but we don't control the thoughts that enter our consciousness.  If we don't control our thoughts, how do we control the decisions that are the direct result of those thoughts?

Romans 12:1-2

I'm talking about verified science.  Scientifically speaking, there is no basis for humans making choices in the matter we think we do.

Science isn't nearly as frequently right as you would like to think.  Science once thought that there were 9 planets, that there were 2 genders, that x and y chromosomes meant something, that the world was only millions of years old, that there was a coming ice age, that acid rain was going to kill us, that the ozone layer could not be renewed, that the core of the earth was millions of degrees hot(ooops, that is Al Gore, not science), and many other things that we know better of now.

[P1tchblack]

but having a thought has nothing to do with free will.  thought is totally different than action.....which does involve free will.

Other than involuntary actions, i.e. pulling your hand from a hot stove, the thing that drives our actions/decisions are our thoughts, but we don't control the thoughts that enter our consciousness.  If we don't control our thoughts, how do we control the decisions that are the direct result of those thoughts?

Romans 12:1-2

I'm talking about verified science.  Scientifically speaking, there is no basis for humans making choices in the matter we think we do.

Science isn't nearly as frequently right as you would like to think.  Science once thought that there were 9 planets, that there were 2 genders, that x and y chromosomes meant something, that the world was only millions of years old, that there was a coming ice age, that acid rain was going to kill us, that the ozone layer could not be renewed, that the core of the earth was millions of degrees hot(ooops, that is Al Gore, not science), and many other things that we know better of now.

Well, I'll take what is currently confirmed by scientists about the functionality of the brain over the writings of men who didn't know where the sun went at night.  And, based on what is currently known, there is no basis for man making choices in the manner we want to believe we do.

[Alabuckeye]

Other than involuntary actions, i.e. pulling your hand from a hot stove, the thing that drives our actions/decisions are our thoughts, but we don't control the thoughts that enter our consciousness.  If we don't control our thoughts, how do we control the decisions that are the direct result of those thoughts?

Romans 12:1-2

I'm talking about verified science.  Scientifically speaking, there is no basis for humans making choices in the matter we think we do.

Science isn't nearly as frequently right as you would like to think.  Science once thought that there were 9 planets, that there were 2 genders, that x and y chromosomes meant something, that the world was only millions of years old, that there was a coming ice age, that acid rain was going to kill us, that the ozone layer could not be renewed, that the core of the earth was millions of degrees hot(ooops, that is Al Gore, not science), and many other things that we know better of now.

Well, I'll take what is currently confirmed by scientists about the functionality of the brain over the writings of men who didn't know where the sun went at night.  And, based on what is currently known, there is no basis for man making choices in the manner we want to believe we do.

So, what your post says is that you have no clue why I referenced Romans 12......and you deflected on the position that science is not nearly as 'settled' as you would like it to be since you place all your faith in it.

[P1tchblack]

Romans 12:1-2

I'm talking about verified science.  Scientifically speaking, there is no basis for humans making choices in the matter we think we do.

Science isn't nearly as frequently right as you would like to think.  Science once thought that there were 9 planets, that there were 2 genders, that x and y chromosomes meant something, that the world was only millions of years old, that there was a coming ice age, that acid rain was going to kill us, that the ozone layer could not be renewed, that the core of the earth was millions of degrees hot(ooops, that is Al Gore, not science), and many other things that we know better of now.

Well, I'll take what is currently confirmed by scientists about the functionality of the brain over the writings of men who didn't know where the sun went at night.  And, based on what is currently known, there is no basis for man making choices in the manner we want to believe we do.

So, what your post says is that you have no clue why I referenced Romans 12......and you deflected on the position that science is not nearly as 'settled' as you would like it to be since you place all your faith in it.

You're right.  I don't know what point that verse, nor any verse, has in a discussion about science.  Also, there's nothing in the Bible that would change my mind about brain functionality.

The Bible, and your belief in religion, is just another experience that influences your brain and therefore your thoughts/decisions...over which you have no control.

[3rdgensooner]

but having a thought has nothing to do with free will.  thought is totally different than action.....which does involve free will.

Other than involuntary actions, i.e. pulling your hand from a hot stove, the thing that drives our actions/decisions are our thoughts, but we don't control the thoughts that enter our consciousness.  If we don't control our thoughts, how do we control the decisions that are the direct result of those thoughts?

Romans 12:1-2

I'm talking about verified science.  Scientifically speaking, there is no basis for humans making choices in the matter we think we do.

LOL. You may as well be talking astrology.

[3rdgensooner]

Again, your opinion of sociology is irrelevant.  You clearly don't WANT to believe it's true, which is fine.  You're 100% welcome to willful ignorance.

No, youâ€re confused. Sociology is ignorance. If I paid attention to moronic studies by biased idiots then I would be willfully ignorant. The whole pseudoscience is an exercise in ignorance. When you learn things that are false that is ignorance.

You don't believe in mob mentality or the broken windows theory?

My statement stands. Ask Hightop dumb questions, I'll pass.

"Dumb question" meaning that if you answered it, you'd contradict yourself.

No, dumb question means it's a dumb question. Learn to read. If you could or had the brains to get past college algebra you wouldn't be in this position.
I do not believe mob mentality or broken window "theory' are scientific concepts. Nor is either a theory.

[P1tchblack]

No, youâ€re confused. Sociology is ignorance. If I paid attention to moronic studies by biased idiots then I would be willfully ignorant. The whole pseudoscience is an exercise in ignorance. When you learn things that are false that is ignorance.

You don't believe in mob mentality or the broken windows theory?

My statement stands. Ask Hightop dumb questions, I'll pass.

"Dumb question" meaning that if you answered it, you'd contradict yourself.

No, dumb question means it's a dumb question. Learn to read. If you could or had the brains to get past college algebra you wouldn't be in this position.
I do not believe mob mentality or broken window "theory' are scientific concepts. Nor is either a theory.

I never said either was a scientific concept.  Do you not believe that groups of people can have an impact on how individuals in that group behave? aka Herd mentality, gang mentality,  mob mentality

[lrrps21]

 If you could or had the brains to get past college algebra you wouldn't be in this position.

That's it in a nutshell...

[3rdgensooner]

You don't believe in mob mentality or the broken windows theory?

My statement stands. Ask Hightop dumb questions, I'll pass.

"Dumb question" meaning that if you answered it, you'd contradict yourself.

No, dumb question means it's a dumb question. Learn to read. If you could or had the brains to get past college algebra you wouldn't be in this position.
I do not believe mob mentality or broken window "theory' are scientific concepts. Nor is either a theory.

I never said either was a scientific concept.  Do you not believe that groups of people can have an impact on how individuals in that group behave? aka Herd mentality, gang mentality,  mob mentality

The answer has nothing to do with sociology being a pseudoscience infested with pseudointellectual liberal navel gazers who produce bias confirming nonsense tarted up as scientific studies.

[P1tchblack]

My statement stands. Ask Hightop dumb questions, I'll pass.

"Dumb question" meaning that if you answered it, you'd contradict yourself.

No, dumb question means it's a dumb question. Learn to read. If you could or had the brains to get past college algebra you wouldn't be in this position.
I do not believe mob mentality or broken window "theory' are scientific concepts. Nor is either a theory.

I never said either was a scientific concept.  Do you not believe that groups of people can have an impact on how individuals in that group behave? aka Herd mentality, gang mentality,  mob mentality

The answer has nothing to do with sociology being a pseudoscience infested with pseudointellectual liberal navel gazers who produce bias confirming nonsense tarted up as scientific studies.

Ha ha....you're embarrassing yourself, now.  Mob mentality is EXACTLY the kind of thing that would be studied and discovered by sociologists.  Do you want to make some ***** up about the broken window theory, too?

[3rdgensooner]

"Dumb question" meaning that if you answered it, you'd contradict yourself.

No, dumb question means it's a dumb question. Learn to read. If you could or had the brains to get past college algebra you wouldn't be in this position.
I do not believe mob mentality or broken window "theory' are scientific concepts. Nor is either a theory.

I never said either was a scientific concept.  Do you not believe that groups of people can have an impact on how individuals in that group behave? aka Herd mentality, gang mentality,  mob mentality

The answer has nothing to do with sociology being a pseudoscience infested with pseudointellectual liberal navel gazers who produce bias confirming nonsense tarted up as scientific studies.

Ha ha....you're embarrassing yourself, now.  Mob mentality is EXACTLY the kind of thing that would be studied and discovered by sociologists.  Do you want to make some ***** up about the broken window theory, too?

Wut? I don't think you're bright enough to realize it isn't me embarrassing himself. Not science. Sorry. They're idiots. Biased idiots. The only thing a sociologist has ever discovered is some navel lint.

[P1tchblack]

No, dumb question means it's a dumb question. Learn to read. If you could or had the brains to get past college algebra you wouldn't be in this position.
I do not believe mob mentality or broken window "theory' are scientific concepts. Nor is either a theory.

I never said either was a scientific concept.  Do you not believe that groups of people can have an impact on how individuals in that group behave? aka Herd mentality, gang mentality,  mob mentality

The answer has nothing to do with sociology being a pseudoscience infested with pseudointellectual liberal navel gazers who produce bias confirming nonsense tarted up as scientific studies.

Ha ha....you're embarrassing yourself, now.  Mob mentality is EXACTLY the kind of thing that would be studied and discovered by sociologists.  Do you want to make some ***** up about the broken window theory, too?

Wut? I don't think you're bright enough to realize it isn't me embarrassing himself. Not science. Sorry. They're idiots. Biased idiots. The only thing a sociologist has ever discovered is some navel lint.

So, again,  you don't think there is any truth to mob mentality, right

[3rdgensooner]

I never said either was a scientific concept.  Do you not believe that groups of people can have an impact on how individuals in that group behave? aka Herd mentality, gang mentality,  mob mentality

The answer has nothing to do with sociology being a pseudoscience infested with pseudointellectual liberal navel gazers who produce bias confirming nonsense tarted up as scientific studies.

Ha ha....you're embarrassing yourself, now.  Mob mentality is EXACTLY the kind of thing that would be studied and discovered by sociologists.  Do you want to make some ***** up about the broken window theory, too?

Wut? I don't think you're bright enough to realize it isn't me embarrassing himself. Not science. Sorry. They're idiots. Biased idiots. The only thing a sociologist has ever discovered is some navel lint.

So, again,  you don't think there is any truth to mob mentality, right

So again you agree sociology is a pseudoscience and sociologists are generally not very bright and biased? Meaning they would have no meaningful contribution to the understanding of mob behavior or anything else, right?