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Thomas vs Ginsburg in abortion ruling Kerfuffle
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(05-29-2019, 08:15 AM)lrrps21 Wrote: The US Constitution does not state a person has the right to have an abortion. However, it does state clearly "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

I'm pretty that is from an earlier document.\
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#14
some sort of declaration?
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#15
My own notion, over time independent of any of this major topic, is that a mother has had a live birth. An "expectant mother" is not a mother if the baby is not delivered. I don't mean any comment on abortion, it's just my notion.
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(05-29-2019, 02:46 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: some sort of declaration?

Yes, one independent of the Constitution, entirely.
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#17
(05-29-2019, 08:28 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote:
(05-29-2019, 08:23 AM)Erhino Wrote:
(05-29-2019, 08:08 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote:
(05-29-2019, 08:01 AM)Erhino Wrote:
(05-28-2019, 06:19 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Ginsberg said that women who abort their child are ''not mothers''.  Even Supreme Court judges suffer from libtardism.

How is she wrong? (In this case, not her generally wrong thinking)

Even if one wanted to call preggers women mothers, it ends when they killed the progeny.

so, if all three of my boys died....I'd no longer be a father?  I'll disagree.....I'll always be a father.

Of course. All your children were born. Now you do bring up a point, it is idiotic to called expectant mothers mothers until they have th baby.

Fight the dictionary on this one as a key term in mother or father is having a child.

I had a child before it was born.  My wife and I were not excited over a fetus.....we were excited because we had a BABY.....

I have multiple friends who have had miscarriages.  ALL of them consider themselves parents, even though the child never lived to birth.

You liberals and your feelings. SMH. So your friends identify as parents and that is fine with me.

moth·er
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    a woman in relation to her child or children.
    "she returned to Bristol to nurse her aging mother"
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    female parent, materfamilias, matriarch;More
    • verb
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        bring up (a child) with care and affection.
        "she didn't know how to mother my brother and he was very sensitive"

  2. Iâ€m not sure why yâ€all feel like arguing the dictionary.
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Speaking of the dictionary...




fe·tus
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noun

  1. an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.
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#19
Where there is a baby, there has to be a mother and father
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(05-29-2019, 02:41 PM)cincydawg Wrote:
(05-29-2019, 08:15 AM)lrrps21 Wrote: The US Constitution does not state a person has the right to have an abortion. However, it does state clearly "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

I'm pretty that is from an earlier document.\

Yea, brainburp.
DC is a symptom, not the cause. The cause is basic voter stupidity and economic ignorance.
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#21
(05-29-2019, 09:34 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Where there is a baby, there has to be a mother and father

If you extend this to the animal kingdom, the father is not always required.  Nor is the mother.

I would have considered a mother to be one who has had a live birth, previously, without any political leaning involved.
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(05-30-2019, 08:35 AM)cincydawg Wrote:
(05-29-2019, 09:34 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Where there is a baby, there has to be a mother and father

If you extend this to the animal kingdom, the father is not always required.  Nor is the mother.

I would have considered a mother to be one who has had a live birth, previously, without any political leaning involved.

I do distinguish between the human and the animal, so I was speaking only of humans.
I don't view your consideration as being totally inaccurate, I do disagree though.  I will agree that your conclusion doesn't have to have a political leaning.
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