The desperation is palpable.  It's embarrassing now.  It really is.  Any word from ole boy Shep on the letter from the 3 or 4 Dem senators to Ukraine regarding the Mueller investigation?  You know, how they should assist or risk losing aid.  Innocent stuff like that.  

Whoever smelled it, dealt it.  The left has been pulling this BS back to when Ma was running Billy Boy's war room and, AHEM, tying up his loose ends.

If New Paul Sperry Report about Whistleblower is True, Itâ€s a Game Changer...
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaugh...-campaign/

The Democrat whistleblower who complained about Trump digging up dirt in Ukraine was himself helping dig up dirt in Ukraine against Trump (and Manafort) while working in the Obama White House during 2016 campaign. — Paul Sperry (@paulsperry_) October 4, 2019

The whistleblower is a registered Democrat & CIA analyst who was detailed before the 2016 election to the Obama White House, where he worked on the NSC's Ukraine desk & met w anti-Trump Ukrainian officials before being sent packing by the Trump NSC & becoming disgruntled — Paul Sperry (@paulsperry_) October 4, 2019

Ruh roh.  Explains Brennan's latest appearance on MSDNC.  

As for anything actually happening to anyone of significance, I'm still solidly on the fence.  I've never seen so many back and forth swings like this.  Tomorrow it will probably swing back the other way when we hear of the legitimate reason/cooked up pretense for the snooping.  Then I'll have to be reminded by the media of how I'm just a fan of "conspiracy theorists."

(10-04-2019, 09:10 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Ruh roh.  Explains Brennan's latest appearance on MSDNC.  

As for anything actually happening to anyone of significance, I'm still solidly on the fence.  I've never seen so many back and forth swings like this.  Tomorrow it will probably swing back the other way when we hear of the legitimate reason/cooked up pretense for the snooping.  Then I'll have to be reminded by the media of how I'm just a fan of "conspiracy theorists."

I imagine the Sunday interviews will be lively...

Nearly Half of Americans Support Trump Impeachment... https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/u...hment-2019

45% of Americans believe the U.S. House should vote to impeach Trump... 38% do not
44% think the U.S. Senate should vote to convict him... 35% do not
39% say there is enough reliable information or evidence to decide if Trump should be impeached... 36% say no and a quarter are unsure.

Democrats overwhelmingly favor a House impeachment vote 74% and Senate conviction 72%... 17% Republicans agree.

Ipsos poll conducted between October 1-2, 2019 on behalf of USA Today. For this survey, a sample of roughly 1,006 adults age 18+ from the continental U.S., Alaska, and Hawaii was interviewed online in English. The sample includes 412 Democrats, 403 Republicans, and 115 Independents.

Trump Is Losing the Most Important Impeachment Battle... https://www.truthdig.com/articles/donald...nt-battle/

I think it is becoming clear Trump will be impeached by the dems. he will not be removed by the senate but there will be a handfull of GOP senators who will vote against him. Just my opinion of course. He has been his own worst enemy as far as public opinion. He just cannot keep his mouth shut or refrain from digging his hole deeper.
I did not vote for him and I certainly did not vote for the Hildabeast. If he loses this election it will be in large part of his own doing. If we see a president Warren or Biden Donald Trump will have a large share of the blame. Our country will survive but will be radically changed and not for the good.

(10-05-2019, 07:30 AM)jmesser1982 Wrote: I think it is becoming clear Trump will be impeached by the dems. he will not be removed by the senate but there will be a handfull of GOP senators who will vote against him. Just my opinion of course. He has been his own worst enemy as far as public opinion. He just cannot keep his mouth shut or refrain from digging his hole deeper.
I did not vote for him and I certainly did not vote for the Hildabeast. If he loses this election it will be in large part of his own doing. If we see a president Warren or Biden Donald Trump will have a large share of the blame. Our country will survive but will be radically changed and not for the good.

+1... Trump comments certainly don't help his cause 
+1... He is his own worst enemy at times.

I'm not sure the votes are there in the House.  A lot of pressure would be applied, but a lot of Dems hail from districts Trump won.

Had they made this "official" in say April, they could have "run clock" and saturated the media with stories without "doing" anything.

Now they would seem to need to bring this all to the floor by end of this year.

(10-05-2019, 07:19 AM)BoyGenius Wrote: Trump Is Losing the Most Important Impeachment Battle... https://www.truthdig.com/articles/donald...nt-battle/

The truth has been the biggest casualty to date.  It's sad to watch.  People are getting beaten down and appear about ready to reward a sick, perverted media by simply giving in.  

The idea that Trump committed an impeachable offense by asking for an investigation into apparent wrong doing is absurd, especially when we KNOW the other side has in FACT colluded with foreign govts.  This is absolutely surreal to me.  All of it, including this poll.  I guess the media still does hold a lot of sway.

These poll swings are expected based on reactions to the news of course and not really that dramatic.

I for example "support a House vote on impeachment".  Do it, go ahead, I dare ya.

I support the "official" inquiry (well, the theoretical one, not the real one).

His approval numbers have barely moved, could be noise.  As time goes by and folks look at this a bit harder, many will realize there is not a whole lot there but "connections" worthy of Glenn Beck.

Maybe this, maybe that, maybe the other.

(10-05-2019, 07:53 AM)cincydawg Wrote: These poll swings are expected based on reactions to the news of course and not really that dramatic.

I for example "support a House vote on impeachment".  Do it, go ahead, I dare ya.

I support the "official" inquiry (well, the theoretical one, not the real one).

His approval numbers have barely moved, could be noise.  As time goes by and folks look at this a bit harder, many will realize there is not a whole lot there but "connections" worthy of Glenn Beck.

Maybe this, maybe that, maybe the other.

Glenn Beck has been doing an investigation into Biden---Ukraine, China, et al  You should check it out.  

Glenn Beck's Ukraine Scandal for Dummies

(10-05-2019, 08:45 AM)Syncro Wrote: Glenn Beck's Ukraine Scandal for Dummies

Hold on.  I need to find my tinfoil hat before I watch any Beck videos.

Does Michael Savage have a video about this?

I listened to about a minute of that Beck thing and was reminded how I can't listen to Beck.

GET TO THE POINT.