(08-05-2019, 05:37 PM)zigbee Wrote: Gotta go hmmmmmmmmm when Beto O'Rourke and Cory Booker and Tim Ryan use these incidents of horror and carnage and fatalities to say Trump is to blame and is a racist and white supremist  and subtly say VOTE FOR ME and I'll fix this.  Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.  How about addressing all the violence in the nation which includes almost 400 killings in Chicago this year alone.....hmmmmmmmmmmmm

(08-05-2019, 05:49 PM)BoyGenius Wrote:

(08-05-2019, 05:37 PM)zigbee Wrote: Gotta go hmmmmmmmmm when Beto O'Rourke and Cory Booker and Tim Ryan use these incidents of horror and carnage and fatalities to say Trump is to blame and is a racist and white supremist  and subtly say VOTE FOR ME and I'll fix this.  Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.  How about addressing all the violence in the nation which includes almost 400 killings in Chicago this year alone.....hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Has "White Nationalist" or "White Supremacy" been defined? It seems to JUST BE their new buzzword in their attempt to shutdown conversation...

Google white supremacy and look at the stuff which pops up.  It's inculcation and propaganda.

(08-05-2019, 06:00 PM)zigbee Wrote: Google white supremacy and look at the stuff which pops up.  It's inculcation and propaganda.

If CNN Labels Senator John Cornyn As A White Supremacist What Chance Do You Have... https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2019/08...st-chance/

The military under Clinton started removing people as fast as they could, and for stupid reasons. I knew a dude who was chapter out of the military - 13 years - because he had a bumper sticker that read "Clinton did have sexual relations with that woman". Fast, too. 1 week and see ya!. We were told we could no longer call Non Airborne people "Legs". We could refer them as Non Airborne Participants or NAPS. Same with colored folks. No longer allowed to refer them as colored - even though the 'C' in NAACP stands for colored - these types were known as minorities. I have heard them referred to as Non Swimmers. I refer them as coloreds.

(08-06-2019, 01:20 AM)lrrps21 Wrote: The military under Clinton started removing people as fast as they could, and for stupid reasons. I knew a dude who was chapter out of the military - 13 years - because he had a bumper sticker that read "Clinton did have sexual relations with that woman". Fast, too. 1 week and see ya!. We were told we could no longer call Non Airborne people "Legs". We could refer them as Non Airborne Participants or NAPS. Same with colored folks. No longer allowed to refer them as colored - even though the 'C' in NAACP stands for colored - these types were known as minorities. I have heard them referred to as Non Swimmers. I refer them as coloreds.

The stupid thing is that the new term "people of color" implies the exact same thing, just a little shifting of words.

(08-06-2019, 01:27 AM)maizegoblue Wrote:

(08-06-2019, 01:20 AM)lrrps21 Wrote: The military under Clinton started removing people as fast as they could, and for stupid reasons. I knew a dude who was chapter out of the military - 13 years - because he had a bumper sticker that read "Clinton did have sexual relations with that woman". Fast, too. 1 week and see ya!. We were told we could no longer call Non Airborne people "Legs". We could refer them as Non Airborne Participants or NAPS. Same with colored folks. No longer allowed to refer them as colored - even though the 'C' in NAACP stands for colored - these types were known as minorities. I have heard them referred to as Non Swimmers. I refer them as coloreds.

The stupid thing is that the new term "people of color" implies the exact same thing, just a little shifting of words.

POC = Pieces of Crap.

(08-05-2019, 05:34 PM)BoyGenius Wrote:

(08-05-2019, 04:04 PM)stxbuck Wrote:

(08-05-2019, 12:13 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: Just because someone might be racist (whose opinion?) doesn't make them Jihadi psychos. Hyperbole doesn't help anyone. For the record, you have called me a racist multiple times.

Saying you want to kill Jews and infidels makes you a jihadi psycho, and brings your interwebz activity to the attention of Mossad . Saying you want to kill blacks and Mexicans makes you a racist psycho/domestic terrorist and would bring your interwebz activity to the attention of the authorities. Saying you don't want your kids marrying a black or Asian-that's racist as hell, but not a threat or a sign of danger. And you are correct-when you post statements like you want a whites only family tree, I will say that you hold a racist belief.

Grouping and stereotyping large swaths of people as racist or bigoted or {fill in the blank} because they do not subscribe to one's personal belief and moral compass tend to be extremely intolerant, disrespectful, and the worst offenders of racism or bigotry...

Louis Farrakhan is in complete agreement with you opposing mixing the family tree. But go ahead w/your straw man of “people who call out legit racist statements are the real bigots”. Iâ€ve had friends who were self admitted racists-but they were honest about the nature of their stated beliefs.

I have no idea how preferring to have grandchildren that actually like like, well...  YOUR grandchildren makes one a racist.  That charge sounds like woke PC nonsense to me.  There's no inherent claim of racial superiority by having that POV.  None at all.

Didnâ€t say anything about racial superiority-just an aversion to race mixing, which, imo, is a bigoted opinion to hold. Others in the NH disagree.

(08-06-2019, 08:15 AM)stxbuck Wrote: Didnâ€t say anything about racial superiority-just an aversion to race mixing, which, imo, is a bigoted opinion to hold. Others in the NH disagree.

You mentioned that you have friends that are self admitted racists, but are at least honest about it.  It appears that you are lumping in guys that want to have grandchildren that actually resemble them in some way as fitting in the boat of not being up front about being racist.  At least that's how it appeared to me.  

310+ million people in this country.  Not everyone is down with their lineage evaporating into thin air.  As long as they are NOT down with force or violence to stop others from doing what they want as far as having kids goes, then really it shouldn't be any sort of concern.  It's a preference that someone holds in a free country.  I just don't see any sort of racism or bigotry by merely holding that opinion.

I stand corrected as you mentioned this earlier (you're saying straight up racist):

Saying you don't want your kids marrying a black or Asian-that's racist as hell, but not a threat or a sign of danger. And you are correct-when you post statements like you want a whites only family tree, I will say that you hold a racist belief.

I'm really curious as to how you get to this view/reach this conclusion.  

(08-06-2019, 06:09 AM)stxbuck Wrote:

(08-05-2019, 05:34 PM)BoyGenius Wrote:

(08-05-2019, 04:04 PM)stxbuck Wrote:

(08-05-2019, 12:13 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: Just because someone might be racist (whose opinion?) doesn't make them Jihadi psychos. Hyperbole doesn't help anyone. For the record, you have called me a racist multiple times.

Saying you want to kill Jews and infidels makes you a jihadi psycho, and brings your interwebz activity to the attention of Mossad . Saying you want to kill blacks and Mexicans makes you a racist psycho/domestic terrorist and would bring your interwebz activity to the attention of the authorities. Saying you don't want your kids marrying a black or Asian-that's racist as hell, but not a threat or a sign of danger. And you are correct-when you post statements like you want a whites only family tree, I will say that you hold a racist belief.

Grouping and stereotyping large swaths of people as racist or bigoted or {fill in the blank} because they do not subscribe to one's personal belief and moral compass tend to be extremely intolerant, disrespectful, and the worst offenders of racism or bigotry...

Louis Farrakhan is in complete agreement with you opposing mixing the family tree. But go ahead w/your straw man of “people who call out legit racist statements are the real bigots”. Iâ€ve had friends who were self admitted racists-but they were honest about the nature of their stated beliefs.

Invoking Farrakhan, claiming him and I are cut from the same cloth? And you accuse me of using a strawman. Comical.
Those who feel they are morally superior are the most intolerant, finger wagging bigots I have encountered.
Feeling morally superior is your shtick... always has been.

CNN talking heads raving about one of the Texas victims family forgiving the shooter, how could this be? Wolfe Blitzed said, "I am just dumbfounded." Well is anyone shocked that CNN commentators unfamiliar with the idea of forgiveness? I'm not.

(08-06-2019, 09:54 AM)jmesser1982 Wrote: CNN talking heads raving about one of the Texas victims family forgiving the shooter, how could this be? Wolfe Blitzed  said, "I am just dumbfounded." Well is anyone shocked that CNN commentators unfamiliar with the idea of forgiveness? I'm not.

Did Wolfe explain what other options are available?