(05-25-2019, 04:01 PM)unc4corners Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 03:59 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 01:23 PM)unc4corners Wrote: Could have been 2 of every species.  
It's a true story.  No doubt. None.

Or at least that's the mental gymnastics Christians perform because, as continues to happen, science proves Biblical "facts" to be nonsensical.

Prove any of the Bible wrong then.

Let's start from the beginning and ignore the clear impossibilities of what the Bible claims Noah did.  God, for example, made light and day and night before he made stars.  If the sun, a star, didn't exist, what made the light?  Also, the Bible, which is the word of God, claims that the moon is a "light", which it early is not.

(05-25-2019, 04:45 PM)stxbuck Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 04:04 PM)unc4corners Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 03:29 PM)stxbuck Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 01:41 PM)unc4corners Wrote: Now did I come from a fish or a monkey?  I keep forgetting...

Humans and frogs share 72% of the same DNA sequences. Humans and chimps share 98% of the same DNA sequences.

So where are the 1/2 frog-man today?
Where are the 1/2 ape- man today?
Is man the stopping point?
Where is the man/?  What will we become?

It's not a cross-species combination, rather, DNA is like computer code, it can serve the same purpose in different organisms-fat cell, eye cell, whatever, just like the computer code for various functions can be used in different systems/applications, but for the same purpose. It's like if you took a chassis from a particular model of car or truck and attached the body, interior, and engine of a different vehicle-you couldn't see the new chassis, but it served the same purpose for both vehicles-the original and the new one.  What makes a human different from a frog is the 28% of the code that is different, and the the 2% of the code that is different from a chimpanzee. It's not that humans evolved from a gorilla or a chimp or a frog, rather, the DNA sequences-the code-changed from generation to generation, leading to greater and greater variation. Mutations/genetic variations can occur in any type of DNA sequence, so, yes, theoretically, things could change over millions of years. Humans have only been recognizably "human" for perhaps 40,000 years, tops. This rock we live on is around 5 billion years old, give or take a few hundred million years.

LOL. 
Why did you answer that? The question is obviously for those who say that such creatures exist(ed).

(05-25-2019, 04:33 PM)K9Buck Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 02:50 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 01:30 PM)K9Buck Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 12:33 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote: Since this is a life size replica I'd like to seem them get two of every kind of animal on there. Should be a comical exercise. Never mind food and water for 40 (or 150) days. Not to mention dealing with waste. The notion that this is a supposed to be a literally true story makes one question the sanity of those who believe that.

It is a fantastic story.  Maybe the story is a metaphor.  I have no idea.  I am pretty sure, however, that the universe didn't cause itself to come into existence.  I certainly have to question the sanity of people who believe such nonsense.

Please explain...

What's the point?  You and I have had this same discussion many times over the past 10+ years.

When will you accept it's a specious circular argument?

(05-25-2019, 04:32 PM)K9Buck Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 02:51 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 01:33 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Atheists love to talk at length about stories like this.  What they avoid like the plague, however, is the concept of first cause and how life came into existence through a ''primordial soup''.  One has to be on some good acid to believe that ''primordial soup'' insanity.

Nobody actually knows how life started. There are some ideas. It wasn't the childish idiocy outlined in Genesis though.

To claim that you KNOW that creation didn't come about as outlined in Genesis is disingenuous.

I think it's reasonable to assume that such a moronic account is so implausible it can be dismissed out of hand. It's absolutely comical.

K9 and 3G should dook it out.

(05-25-2019, 05:35 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 04:01 PM)unc4corners Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 03:59 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 01:23 PM)unc4corners Wrote: Could have been 2 of every species.  
It's a true story.  No doubt. None.

Or at least that's the mental gymnastics Christians perform because, as continues to happen, science proves Biblical "facts" to be nonsensical.

Prove any of the Bible wrong then.

Let's start from the beginning and ignore the clear impossibilities of what the Bible claims Noah did.  God, for example, made light and day and night before he made stars.  If the sun, a star, didn't exist, what made the light?  Also, the Bible, which is the word of God, claims that the moon is a "light", which it early is not.

The Bible never says the moon emits light.  It says it gives light.  A mirror gives you a reflection but when someone shines a light into it in your eyes you yell for them to turn the light out.  The mirror reflects light and therefore gives light.  A mirror never emits light but is used many many times to give light.  Study the Hebrew version/translation of this passage and get back to me if you really want true answers.

(05-25-2019, 05:58 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 04:32 PM)K9Buck Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 02:51 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 01:33 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Atheists love to talk at length about stories like this.  What they avoid like the plague, however, is the concept of first cause and how life came into existence through a ''primordial soup''.  One has to be on some good acid to believe that ''primordial soup'' insanity.

Nobody actually knows how life started. There are some ideas. It wasn't the childish idiocy outlined in Genesis though.

To claim that you KNOW that creation didn't come about as outlined in Genesis is disingenuous.

I think it's reasonable to assume that such a moronic account is so implausible it can be dismissed out of hand. It's absolutely comical.

We'll see, unless you're correct and there is no creator and no ''life after death'', in which case, we'll never see anything and when we die, it might as well be as if we never existed because our consciousness will cease.  

Third, if you weren't alive right here and now, you'd swear that this existence is impossible, yee of little faith.  

(05-25-2019, 06:30 PM)Brutus Buckeye Wrote: K9 and 3G should dook it out.

I think I've been acquainted with Third on these message boards for 10+ years.  He and I agree on most things.  Where we have differed is on God and the after life.  He and I also argued about Trump during the 2016 campaign.  Third was/is a lot like STX in that they both think Trump is an idiot.

(05-25-2019, 07:26 PM)unc4corners Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 05:35 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 04:01 PM)unc4corners Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 03:59 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 01:23 PM)unc4corners Wrote: Could have been 2 of every species.  
It's a true story.  No doubt. None.

Or at least that's the mental gymnastics Christians perform because, as continues to happen, science proves Biblical "facts" to be nonsensical.

Prove any of the Bible wrong then.

Let's start from the beginning and ignore the clear impossibilities of what the Bible claims Noah did.  God, for example, made light and day and night before he made stars.  If the sun, a star, didn't exist, what made the light?  Also, the Bible, which is the word of God, claims that the moon is a "light", which it early is not.

The Bible never says the moon emits light.  It says it gives light.  A mirror gives you a reflection but when someone shines a light into it in your eyes you yell for them to turn the light out.  The mirror reflects light and therefore gives light.  A mirror never emits light but is used many many times to give light.  Study the Hebrew version/translation of this passage and get back to me if you really want true answers.

Fair enough, but how did light exist before the sun?

(05-25-2019, 07:33 PM)K9Buck Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 06:30 PM)Brutus Buckeye Wrote: K9 and 3G should dook it out.

I think I've been acquainted with Third on these message boards for 10+ years.  He and I agree on most things.  Where we have differed is on God and the after life.  He and I also argued about Trump during the 2016 campaign.  Third was/is a lot like STX in that they both think Trump is an idiot.

Count me as a #3.  Trump is an idiot.

(05-25-2019, 08:27 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 07:33 PM)K9Buck Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 06:30 PM)Brutus Buckeye Wrote: K9 and 3G should dook it out.

I think I've been acquainted with Third on these message boards for 10+ years.  He and I agree on most things.  Where we have differed is on God and the after life.  He and I also argued about Trump during the 2016 campaign.  Third was/is a lot like STX in that they both think Trump is an idiot.

Count me as a #3.  Trump is an idiot.

But less of an idiot than the two guys that came before him.

(05-25-2019, 08:34 PM)K9Buck Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 08:27 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 07:33 PM)K9Buck Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 06:30 PM)Brutus Buckeye Wrote: K9 and 3G should dook it out.

I think I've been acquainted with Third on these message boards for 10+ years.  He and I agree on most things.  Where we have differed is on God and the after life.  He and I also argued about Trump during the 2016 campaign.  Third was/is a lot like STX in that they both think Trump is an idiot.

Count me as a #3.  Trump is an idiot.

But less of an idiot than the two guys that came before him.

This is true. Dubya ruined the GOP brand w/ his big government blowout extravaganza of a presidency. BHObozo, no need to rehash.....................

(05-25-2019, 08:54 PM)stxbuck Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 08:34 PM)K9Buck Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 08:27 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: Count me as a #3.  Trump is an idiot.

But less of an idiot than the two guys that came before him.

This is true. Dubya ruined the GOP brand w/ his big government blowout extravaganza of a presidency. BHObozo, no need to rehash.....................

+1... Bush's big government spending extravaganza... or was that Cheney?

(05-25-2019, 08:57 PM)BoyGenius Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 08:54 PM)stxbuck Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 08:34 PM)K9Buck Wrote:

(05-25-2019, 08:27 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: Count me as a #3.  Trump is an idiot.

But less of an idiot than the two guys that came before him.

This is true. Dubya ruined the GOP brand w/ his big government blowout extravaganza of a presidency. BHObozo, no need to rehash.....................

+1... Bush's big government spending extravaganza... or was that Cheney?

I like Cheney. Dubya's spending and No Child Left Behind bs problems were his own.

Trump may go down as the greatest potus since Lincoln.