Don't people want to find out about the CIA and NSA in all this spy stuff? Clapper Brennan and Comey.

How about McCabe communications?

And then provide some info on Lynch and finally the Obama admin and the unmaskings

Sam Powers 270 unmaskings from NSA data.

We WANT to see which citizens were in those unmaskings. Hopefully it's candidate Trump at Trump Tower

(05-24-2019, 08:36 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote:

(05-24-2019, 07:15 AM)cincydawg Wrote: Do folks here generally think these declassified documents will be pivotal in some sense?  Will they reveal nefarious doings by Democrats?

Or will they be equivocal, or lead to "explanations" as to what was really meant and done?

When you say docs I assume you are also referring to emails and texts.  Here's where I stand on those.  No one was smashing hard drives or cell phones in the FBI like they were for Ma in State (though I think it's been long established that some text messages have been "lost").  Strozk and Page have already been nailed on stuff like that (texts).  So yeah, we may find out more bad stuff on that front. On the flip side, who would be dumb enough to put anything nefarious in writing?  Then again, "everyone" there assumed Ma was gonna win and that this stuff wouldn't see the light of day, so...


Right now, I doubt we will see more people dumb enough to go the Strozk and Page route, but, BUT I do think we may see some contradictory information regarding time lines, etc...   that would lead a reasonable person to conclude that team Obama was using the govt to spy on Americans of the opposition political party, via human assets and technology.  I mean, we are basically already there now.  We will also likely be able to figure out leaks to our lovely, unbiased media.  I also expect investigators to be able to put together how the dossier was to be put before the court.  The plan or scheme probably not written in so many words.  

I think some people are gonna go down for this, but I doubt it ever gets as high as Lynch.

I wouldn't be surprised if it ultimately fizzles out and a statement is made that the FBI acted erroneously and incompetently, but nothing criminal.

(05-24-2019, 09:49 AM)K9Buck Wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if it ultimately fizzles out and a statement is made that the FBI acted erroneously and incompetently, but nothing criminal.

I think we've already crossed that bridge.  This is where the timelines come into play.  The spies/"informants" in the Trump campaign and when/why they were inserted.  Slipping the dossier past a FISA judge.  The unmaskings are gonna be a huge deal IMO.  Then of course you have the Hillary email thing.  Dead to rights.  She broke the law and these people let her skate.  The scheme is in black and white.  Then there was the obstruction of justice (smashing hard drives, etc...) where they did nothing as well.  


I admit that I go back and forth on this, regarding the outcome.  There's what *should* be done, and then there's what *will* be done.  We'll see.  I tend to think some people will pay a legal cost.  I think Comey and Brennan are about as high up the tree it will go, though I'm not super confident that they will see justice.  Again, we'll see.   

I'm of the mind that we have to have the full truth, whatever that may be, come out here. In some measure our country depends on it. We must have it.......

I've prayed for that for 3 years now.

When we start seeing one way flights to Argentina and Switzerland then I'll believe people will be punished. Until then, nothing. Dems are demanding an AG break the law and won't stop there. RINOS - cashing in on China - are talking impeachment. Trump did nothing to warrant impeachment - 2 years of trying to find a crime proved it.

Conclusion: Some government bus driver or Julian Assange will be the person punished.

My guess obviously is that is akin to the Mueller/obstruction thing in reverse.

Historically, it was best when D.C. was in gridlock, but this is circus material.

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The Left showed no reluctance to apply the word TREASON to Trump. Now suddenly they want to use a strict definition
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A good @PeteWilliamsNBC primer on what “treason” means and how Trump keeps misusing the term. Being disloyal to the president or investigating oneâ€s campaign is not treason. (link: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-h...s-n1009636) nbcnews.com/politics/white…

They who spied on Americans as employees of the FBI were not friends of this nation.  

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.@RepMarkMeadows on declassifying the Russia investigation: “There is information coming that will curl your hair. … Adam Schiff has seen documents that he knows will actually put the finger pointing back at him and his Democrat colleagues, not the president” pic.twitter.com/Aax87GSLwi — Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) May 24, 2019

(05-24-2019, 11:34 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: .@RepMarkMeadows on declassifying the Russia investigation: “There is information coming that will curl your hair. … Adam Schiff has seen documents that he knows will actually put the finger pointing back at him and his Democrat colleagues, not the president” pic.twitter.com/Aax87GSLwi — Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) May 24, 2019

My hunch is that it is information that would curl your hair in normal times.  We now live in post fundamental transformation territory.  The media will justify and down play the hell out of whatever this is.  


Obviously this sounds like big news though.  Cue Cincy to downplay this in 3, 2...  

(05-24-2019, 09:48 AM)BigDroppa Wrote: Don't people want to find out about the CIA and NSA in all this spy stuff?  Clapper Brennan and Comey.

How about McCabe communications?

And then provide some info on Lynch and finally the Obama admin and the unmaskings

Sam Powers 270 unmaskings from NSA data.

We WANT to see which citizens were in those unmaskings. Hopefully it's candidate Trump at Trump Tower

On Thursday night investigative journalist Sara Carter said we will find out something soon on Samantha Power and the people she unmasked and it will be shocking.
Power was accused of unmasking innocent Americans in the final months of the Obama administration.
The former UN ambassador unmasked 300 individuals, an unheard number, in her last year in office.
There are now reports that Samantha Power was unmasking phone calls about the settlements in Israel.



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BREAKING: Samantha Power targeted any call made about Israeli settlements for unmasking. When she found Gen Flynn making calls she opposed, she passed information to Sally Yates who opened Logan Act investigation. DNI Coats has now reviewed all unmaskings - @OANN

I don't think Samantha Power was responsible for all of the unmasking made under her name. That's a lot of requests in one year.
Spying on US citizens was occurring since 2012-ish with the FBI granting 3rd party contractors access to the FISA database.

They left a PAPER TRAIL as wide as I95... https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-2...rikes-back

(05-25-2019, 09:47 AM)BoyGenius Wrote: I don't think Samantha Power was responsible for all of the unmasking made under her name. That's a lot of requests in one year.
Spying on US citizens was occurring since 2012-ish with the FBI granting 3rd party contractors access to the FISA database.

They left a PAPER TRAIL as wide as I95... https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-2...rikes-back

Meh, according to some (one in particular) on here this will fizzle....well, I don't think it will fizzle.  This bomb is about to go BOOM!!!  This is the biggest scandal in US history.